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*Fighting music*

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*Fighting music*

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It's the best we could have done given the circumstances. There's not a lot more we could have done with it.

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I'm trying to get the fucking thing together.

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What do you mean it's too late? 11 o'clock is not early enough.

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*Fighting music*

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I fucking know well that there's people in bed, they're both in bed now.

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What matters is that we're gonna get this done, we're gonna get it done tonight, because if it doesn't get done, it's never gonna get done.

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You're talking shite.

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I'm happy with shite. I don't even believe you.

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I don't even believe you. Even if it all be your apocalypse, I wouldn't believe you.

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Disgusting stuff.

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It's a bit fucking lit for this, but I don't give a rat tish.

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Yeah.

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Zah, zah, zah, zah, zah, zah, zah.

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Rah, cha, bah.

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Don't let them see.

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Don't let them see me.

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You can't have them see me in the fucking shop until I get into the free.

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How are you getting on, everybody?

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Welcome to another Fat 32 stream of justice and death.

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I'm only guessing there's going to be no death whatsoever tonight.

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And unfortunately, the fucking wheel has come off again.

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I spent all day fixing it yesterday.

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I thought about not flaking the chair on the entrance in,

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but I thought then when it came to the crunch, the show wouldn't really be as good if it didn't have that kind of setup and scenario in it as well.

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So I'm hoping there that that was, that was okay.

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That was, it worked.

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Steph says, NGL, which is short for Not Gonna Lie.

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It was very exciting.

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Lord Blondes has twisted.

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And Chaba from Liam Duffy as well.

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Dennis Nolan.

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Hopefully you're all getting on well.

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We're about to go back into the fold here with Net Cafe, which is Stuart Shafé's spin-off show of the internet, about the internet from Computer Chronicles.

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And we discovered this the other week.

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I thought it was just like one off, maybe a pilot that never got made into anything other than a pilot.

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But it turns out there's two series of this.

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And we're only 15 minutes, not even 15 minutes into one episode.

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It's everything I could have hoped for and more.

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It's risky.

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They're talking about webcams, chat rooms.

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Stuart Shafé, countless number of times, mentions, is there a sexual kind of connotation to this with everything he's talking about?

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It's weird.

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It's weird stuff.

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It's the early days of the internet where it was the Wild West.

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There wasn't a need for VPNs.

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Like, everything was free.

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And now it's a case of it's not free and everything is geo-blocked and you can only access it in specific regions.

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But less talking, more action because we need to get into this.

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Okay, it's a late start.

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And I apologize for that.

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But, I mean, there's not a lot I could do about it.

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Thank you very much there.

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Creamy Pints.

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Creamy Pints O'Shaughnessy.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank God you're on.

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Dying of a hangover, you say.

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And this has given me hope again.

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Well, look, there won't be much hope unless we can get the fucking hope on a rope here.

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Which is the Net Cafe episode which we've been dying to see.

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I'm wondering if we should just play it.

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Let's just have a little highlight.

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A little look there at the first bits of the episode there that we were watching.

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I have a few clips actually I concocted together as well.

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Actually, let's have a look.

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Let's just analyze the intro here.

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It's San Francisco.

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It's cool.

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It's trendy.

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And the clues to what the content of the show is hidden in the opening titles here.

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Let's have a little look at this.

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Paul Meshkel, thank you very much for the Fat32 there.

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It's very, very kind of you.

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I hope you're getting on well there, Paul Meshkel.

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Very, very dancey.

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Computer.

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Cybersmith.

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Now, I looked this up.

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Cybersmith is the name of the cafe where they filmed this fucking thing.

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And it was a top of the art, state of the range internet cafe which had cool cuisine.

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Compete with the best.

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So it was aimed at the up and coming up and comers who wanted to lunch, power lunch away with their laptops and notebooks.

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They wanted to hop on a trolley cart, go downtown over the Golden Gate Bridge and then head right down to fucking Cybersmith.

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And then whip out the laptop and start powering the cyber world right into next Tuesday, weekday, fortnight.

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And that's, this is all shot on location.

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So, Shafé's Net Cafe.

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And that's someone there.

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I don't know whether or not they're an extra or they are someone that they roped into on the day.

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Probably a runner on the show or someone who works on the show.

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There's a look at the carpentry that went into making the housing for these beige monstrosity PC monitors and everything like that.

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And then check out the Macintosh graphic design.

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You've got a Macintosh window which has the stuff in it.

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And then Shafé cyber privacy.

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Virtual doctor.

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Online jobs.

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Thank you very much there, Robbie, for the tip.

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I hope you're getting on well there, Robbie.

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Thanks very much.

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Virtual doctor.

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Cyber Hollywood.

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Online jobs.

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Shafé's Net Cafe.

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Cool.

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What's that say?

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Cool homo pegas.

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Web science.

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Commerce.

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Online.

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What's this?

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Cool homo pegas.

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Cool homo pegas.

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Virism online.

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Cyber chat.

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Virtual zoo.

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Commerce.

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Kids.

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Safe kids.

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Cyber chat.

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Online shopping.

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Web radio.

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Sex online.

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It's funny how, look, they haven't even, uh, Safe Kids hasn't even faded out before.

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They've put sex online just above it.

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It's, it's quite disconcerting.

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And, uh, I wonder was this done on a very tight budget and turnaround.

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We, we, we don't know.

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Maybe we, we will never know.

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Cyber news.

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Money on the web.

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What's this guy swiping a fucking, he's got a, a credit card machine built into his PC.

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Now, I seen an advert for this the other day.

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I'm going to move this around so I can see the fucking camera and see what's.

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Take your clothes off, Chip.

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I don't, you know, take off my clothes on request because it's not a service I'm providing.

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Right, right.

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Thanks a lot, Chip.

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Sure thing.

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Thanks very much for that tip, Chip.

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Safez cyber, Safez.

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Thank you very much there.

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So this is, I seen an advert the other day and now people are, banks are going to let people.

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Thank you very much, Safez cyber, and Jimmy Big Nuts.

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Thank you very much, Jimmy Big Nuts.

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I seen an advert there the other day that now people are going to carry around these

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little yokes that allow, you know when you go to the shop to buy stuff, you just tap your

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card or your phone.

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Now people are going to have them in their fucking bags and stuff like that.

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You can do that.

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I can't remember anything like this happening where someone just has a swipe on the side

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of their PC.

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Pineapple, thank you very much for your tip there.

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That's Chip there, in case you're wondering what the hell that clip is.

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That's a clip of our good friend, Chip, from the last day.

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I'll just show you that there if we can put that up on the screen there.

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Let's have a look there, Chip.

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We got that.

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Is Chip your real name, by the way, or is that a persona for the website?

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No, now it's my real name.

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Take your clothes off, Chip.

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I don't, you know, take off my clothes on request because it's not a service I'm providing.

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Right, right.

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Thanks a lot, Chip.

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Sure thing.

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And a bit of our good friend Schindler's list at the end there.

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Now, let's carry on with the proceedings here.

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So this is money on the web.

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Let me see this now.

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Press play on that.

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This week at the Internet Cafe, Voyeurism Online.

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This is a website called homecams.com, your guide to sites where people are using webcams

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to let you peek in on their day.

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Yeah, we've seen this, actually.

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We've seen this.

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There's no need to look at this now.

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But again, just let's, there's a shot of New York there.

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Thank you very much there.

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Cyberspace missionary.

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I hope you're getting on well and that life is treating you well.

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We've got a shot there of New York in the background.

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And I think he's trying to just give you, even though everything else there is in San Francisco

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or Paolo Alto.

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Cybersmith, I did the research there.

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Paolo Alto is where Cybersmith Cafe was.

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And this is shot in 1998.

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Interestingly enough, Cybersmith went bust the following year.

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It went out of biz.

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Which is strange because looking at it there, it looks like it was a leader in this kind of new cyber, cyber dying industries view of the world.

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Web science.

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Voyeurism online.

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E-commerce.

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Virtual zoo.

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Cyber chat.

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Save kids.

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Online shopping.

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Sex online.

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Cyber news.

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Money on the web.

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Internet.

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This weekend.

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It's got a lovely kind of Streets of Rage style thing going on there as well.

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The Internet Cafe Voyeurism online.

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And scene of the sack.

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Thank you very much for that there.

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A guide to sites where people are using webcams to let you peek in on their day-to-day lives.

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One of these people is Christine.

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She runs the Housewife Cam.

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Thanks very much, sir.

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Scene of the sack.

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You can follow her around day and night.

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If you want to see the best of home cam shots, go to this website and archive of memorable moments from various live cam locations.

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This is Chip of Chip Cam.

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He decided the chat rooms were kind of boring.

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Yeah, so we saw this guy.

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This is Chip Cam.

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His name isn't Chip Cam, but his name is Chip.

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And it wasn't Chip, interestingly enough, to begin with.

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But he had his name changed by deed poll to Chip.

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And this is the twisted woman here.

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She's not twisted herself, but she did have this kind of like weird little moment where she kept on saying,

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Twisted!

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Or she said it once.

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Anyway, we looped it over a hundred times.

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And I wonder if we could just loop that one there just to give you a glimpse of what was going on in the last...

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Twisted!

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There we go.

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Twisted!

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Twisted!

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Twisted!

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Twisted!

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Twisted!

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So we've got that as well.

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If you missed it, then you weren't really there, were you?

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You should have been there.

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Twisted!

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I mean, I could actually be happy enough myself just playing that for an hour or just watching that.

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Thanks very much there.

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Steam of the Sack.

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Cyberspace Missionary.

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Pineapples.

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Shafae Cyber.

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Shafae.

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Jimmy Big Nuts.

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Robbie and Paul Meskel.

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I'm trying to keep on top of all this stuff here.

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But anyway, let's keep going.

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Let's keep going.

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A little bit different.

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It's not a traditional webcam.

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It's not the weather outside or something that a company has put out.

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But these are people in their house having cameras on.

256
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And cops take drugs.

257
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Thank you very much there.

258
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Cops take drugs.

259
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Just wanted to actually ask before we went on.

260
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It's funny enough.

261
00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:57,540
Since the last day was happening, there was a development, I believe.

262
00:13:57,540 --> 00:14:00,080
I saw an advert for this on Channel 4.

263
00:14:00,180 --> 00:14:01,940
I'm not sure if you saw it yourself.

264
00:14:02,220 --> 00:14:03,620
Let's have a little look there and see.

265
00:14:05,060 --> 00:14:05,580
Twisted!

266
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There's a web of darkness on Dispatches on Channel 4.

267
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It looks like it's going to be a real crackerjack.

268
00:14:22,420 --> 00:14:27,240
I would definitely tune into that if you've got Channel 4 anyway.

269
00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,300
But it's an interesting look at the way things are going on.

270
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The story behind.

271
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People getting undressed, you know, going to the bathroom.

272
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Twisted!

273
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Dispatches investigates Monday at 8.

274
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And plenty more of that when we get it.

275
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And believe you and me, we do get it often and hard.

276
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Walnut Chip, thank you very much.

277
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And Censor Ship, thank you very much for that.

278
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Hopefully we're not being censored here.

279
00:14:48,460 --> 00:14:50,040
You won't censor me now, Pat.

280
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You've censored me too many times.

281
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Investigation Monday at 8 on 4.

282
00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,880
And thank you very much there for the tip there.

283
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Censor Ship.

284
00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:03,980
Let's have a look here now.

285
00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,500
It's not as exciting, in my opinion, as like TV or, you know, some of the movies or something.

286
00:15:08,660 --> 00:15:10,780
What is going on here that people are...

287
00:15:10,780 --> 00:15:11,840
We've seen this already.

288
00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,680
This was an absolute crackerjack or lular of a person.

289
00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,060
His name was Steve Boos or something or Boosay.

290
00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,480
And I think we might have a little clip of him with some crazy music from last day as well.

291
00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,740
Let me just see if we have the Boos man.

292
00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:30,060
No, that's your man.

293
00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:30,960
We don't have...

294
00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:31,640
Yeah, there we go.

295
00:15:32,140 --> 00:15:33,320
We might have something here.

296
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Take off my clothes on request because it's not a service I'm providing.

297
00:15:37,380 --> 00:15:38,120
It's not good.

298
00:15:47,260 --> 00:15:49,760
That's a lovely bit of flashy Boos there.

299
00:15:49,860 --> 00:15:50,640
Flashy Boos.

300
00:15:51,180 --> 00:15:53,580
Charles Bob, thank you very much for your tip there.

301
00:15:53,980 --> 00:15:57,140
On a scale of 1 to 24, how much do you hate Kerry?

302
00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,040
Don't hate them at all.

303
00:15:58,420 --> 00:16:00,280
Thanks very much there for the tip there.

304
00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,660
Actually, in some ways, it's even more exciting than TV.

305
00:16:02,820 --> 00:16:06,860
I heard a lot of comments from people that it's better than TV because it's real.

306
00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,880
We'll move on there at pace.

307
00:16:11,660 --> 00:16:12,860
Gridrain 741.

308
00:16:13,060 --> 00:16:13,880
Thank you very much.

309
00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,720
So we got past this.

310
00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:24,920
We saw webcams, the innovation, the new thing that was doing the rounds on the internet was people setting up a webcam.

311
00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:33,460
Much like the one that you're watching me on now, but probably not as dynamic in that they didn't really have any clips lined up or anything like that.

312
00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,400
And they were just sitting around doing fuck all.

313
00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:36,800
This guy is Chip.

314
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Changed his name to Chip.

315
00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,700
We don't actually know his real first name.

316
00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:47,320
But anyway, he's the creator of Chip Cam and a bunch of diaries, which some of the web sleuth viewers of ours.

317
00:16:47,380 --> 00:16:50,620
Thank you very much, Grieving Mole and Gridrain 741 and Charles Bob.

318
00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:59,960
Some of our web sleuth viewers the last day got onto this because I was looking at this little Chip diaries moment here, which we can see just here on the screen.

319
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I was trying to zoom in and read.

320
00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,280
And as you can see, the text becomes very pixelated.

321
00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,300
You can't really read it.

322
00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:15,100
And then our eagle-eyed viewers went and found and tracked down the location of the diary because I put in the fucking chipbraindump.com.

323
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It didn't.

324
00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,300
It got nothing back.

325
00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:23,180
Then they went on this thing called the Wayback Machine, which has cached a load of fucking internet sites.

326
00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:23,920
And they found it.

327
00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:24,920
We read some of that.

328
00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,800
And we'll be reading some of that later as well.

329
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,020
Moving on from the Chip Cam scenario.

330
00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,060
Let's move on from that.

331
00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:33,680
Sorry about this.

332
00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,440
Just skip right through this here.

333
00:17:36,620 --> 00:17:36,900
Oh, yeah.

334
00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,700
This was a moment I thought was pretty funny.

335
00:17:39,700 --> 00:17:41,940
It was Shafae's transition away from Chip.

336
00:17:42,340 --> 00:17:45,940
Moving into another interview with a webcam woman.

337
00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,020
Who was known as the Housewife.

338
00:17:49,540 --> 00:17:53,040
And it's a woman who has just put webcams around her house.

339
00:17:53,100 --> 00:17:54,480
Even though her husband doesn't like it.

340
00:17:55,020 --> 00:17:57,340
And Shafae is very intrigued about this.

341
00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,880
And keeps on asking about the sexual nature of it all as well.

342
00:18:00,940 --> 00:18:02,400
We might just have another little look at that.

343
00:18:02,540 --> 00:18:03,920
Somebody else is doing a similar thing.

344
00:18:03,980 --> 00:18:04,780
So thanks a lot to you.

345
00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:05,140
Sure thing.

346
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:16,320
A lovely, lazy, fair, jelly pelt.

347
00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:17,160
Thank you very much.

348
00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:23,320
A really nice, relaxed kind of vibe in this Cybersmith location that they shot this in.

349
00:18:23,860 --> 00:18:26,300
And he's just moving around as Shafae.

350
00:18:26,420 --> 00:18:27,340
He's sitting down.

351
00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:29,420
He's just drifting around the place.

352
00:18:30,140 --> 00:18:39,220
And it's not like a static, you know, Computer Chronicles set that we've come to know and love from earlier days.

353
00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,900
10,000 hits a day I had heard when you heard your story.

354
00:18:41,900 --> 00:18:43,220
Yes, that's up to 10,000.

355
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,240
Sometimes 15,000 hits a day.

356
00:18:45,580 --> 00:18:46,060
Why?

357
00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,380
What is so interesting about watching you at home?

358
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:50,860
That's a good question.

359
00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:59,040
I think it's just the ability to view somebody's life, to be a part of somebody's life, to just see what they do.

360
00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:00,280
Can you hear that?

361
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:00,860
Is that okay?

362
00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:05,140
In a day and what their daily life is like.

363
00:19:05,820 --> 00:19:09,240
Was that your, I mean, what was your idea behind creating Housewife Cam?

364
00:19:09,620 --> 00:19:10,860
Oh, actually it happened like...

365
00:19:10,860 --> 00:19:11,480
Volume is low.

366
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,120
Sorry about that, guys.

367
00:19:13,260 --> 00:19:17,200
Let me just quickly there, we fucking pop out of that.

368
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,180
Make sure that's cranked up.

369
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,100
What about this here?

370
00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:23,040
What about this?

371
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,660
We'll go down here now and see this.

372
00:19:29,340 --> 00:19:29,980
Nice.

373
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,840
And multi-output device like that.

374
00:19:33,540 --> 00:19:34,520
Now, what about this?

375
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,840
Husband and I were just...

376
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:38,460
Messing around.

377
00:19:38,460 --> 00:19:43,240
...throwing ideas around and we had been on See You, See Me for quite a while and...

378
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:43,620
Uh-huh.

379
00:19:43,620 --> 00:19:44,180
...camera ass.

380
00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:46,640
Holy shit.

381
00:19:47,220 --> 00:19:48,340
Should have done this beforehand.

382
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:49,760
I thought I did do it.

383
00:19:49,820 --> 00:19:50,620
I thought it was all grand.

384
00:19:50,740 --> 00:19:51,300
We're obviously not.

385
00:19:51,780 --> 00:19:52,760
Multi-output device.

386
00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:53,240
There we go.

387
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,200
Shafae Schleid.

388
00:19:55,260 --> 00:19:55,920
Thank you very much.

389
00:19:55,980 --> 00:19:58,640
It really was a lovely little slide that he did in that thing.

390
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,760
I'm glad that some people are picking up on that as well.

391
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,500
He started playing around the webcam software and before you know it, I've got my own page.

392
00:20:04,540 --> 00:20:09,420
Is there, let me ask you this, is there a kind of sexual connotation to it?

393
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:09,900
I mean, you're very...

394
00:20:09,900 --> 00:20:12,760
Mad into this question, line of questioning is Shafae.

395
00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:15,040
It's a sexual underlined thing.

396
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,260
The webcam stuff.

397
00:20:16,540 --> 00:20:20,180
Is part of it just there's a good-looking lady who walks around sometimes with not too much clothes on?

398
00:20:20,420 --> 00:20:22,200
I would imagine that's a big part of it.

399
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:30,800
But, yeah, I think it's not as intimidating to people when they can view you on screen and they don't have to worry about making conversation with you.

400
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:32,820
But how about from your side?

401
00:20:32,900 --> 00:20:40,100
I mean, if you go to your side, I mean, there's shots of you there sort of topless at the keyboard or hanging around in, you know, small clothing.

402
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:41,940
Is that sort of...

403
00:20:41,940 --> 00:20:43,620
Small clothing.

404
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,560
I have no problems with sharing myself.

405
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,120
Shari Lito, thank you very much.

406
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,040
Generally, I'm sitting there answering emails to people who are emailing...

407
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,260
So you're just working as you might normally...

408
00:20:54,260 --> 00:20:54,400
Yeah.

409
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,120
Just sitting there.

410
00:20:55,540 --> 00:20:57,580
Crazy bits of business going on as well.

411
00:20:57,700 --> 00:20:58,540
I mean, who is this?

412
00:20:58,620 --> 00:20:59,380
Is this the husband?

413
00:20:59,980 --> 00:21:04,300
It was never really revealed who this chap was.

414
00:21:05,340 --> 00:21:09,260
But he's got a dense, thick thatch atop the crown.

415
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,100
And I don't know if that's an office or what.

416
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,560
There's the webcam there anyway.

417
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,700
Some disconcerting messages on top of the thing there.

418
00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:25,060
This certainly isn't an innocent venture in the slightest.

419
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:26,800
And then what's he doing there?

420
00:21:26,900 --> 00:21:28,200
We've got a mirror on the back.

421
00:21:28,340 --> 00:21:28,940
We can see...

422
00:21:28,940 --> 00:21:29,780
Oops, sorry about that.

423
00:21:29,860 --> 00:21:30,080
Let me see.

424
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,280
We've got a mirror at the back there.

425
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,060
And we can just see a printer.

426
00:21:34,780 --> 00:21:36,940
But I don't know what he's at there.

427
00:21:37,340 --> 00:21:38,160
He's just sitting down.

428
00:21:38,460 --> 00:21:39,100
We don't know.

429
00:21:39,140 --> 00:21:40,440
Where's the cue ball going there?

430
00:21:40,780 --> 00:21:41,420
We don't know.

431
00:21:42,580 --> 00:21:43,540
Reading news groups.

432
00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:44,460
Whatever's happening.

433
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,720
But I mean, you have even...

434
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,060
You've got...

435
00:21:47,060 --> 00:21:48,240
I know when you go to your homepage...

436
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,600
Charlito, thank you very much.

437
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,040
And Moist Mars, thank you very much.

438
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,040
Bedroom cam, I think.

439
00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:52,440
Bedroom cam.

440
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,020
Which starts to suggest, well, what's going on on this website?

441
00:21:55,380 --> 00:21:56,100
Unfortunately, bedroom...

442
00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:57,040
What's going on?

443
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,940
And Stuart knows well what's going on.

444
00:21:58,980 --> 00:22:00,360
That's the thing about Stu here.

445
00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:01,240
Cam's not up yet.

446
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,780
We're still working on that one.

447
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,640
But I do plan on eventually expanding it into that.

448
00:22:07,060 --> 00:22:09,540
And unfortunately, my husband doesn't want any part of it.

449
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,540
So it'll have to be mainly when he's not there.

450
00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:12,620
Well, I wanted to ask you about that.

451
00:22:12,620 --> 00:22:15,880
Because I know you say somewhere on your website, well, your husband is really not too thrilled

452
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:16,920
with what you're doing there.

453
00:22:17,580 --> 00:22:20,460
Is that just because he doesn't like you walking around in the underwear or whatever?

454
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,760
I don't think it's so much that.

455
00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:23,060
Or whatever.

456
00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:25,780
Is that the underwear or whatever?

457
00:22:25,780 --> 00:22:26,380
I don't think it's too much of my time.

458
00:22:27,060 --> 00:22:28,180
Or somebody may...

459
00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:28,800
It's a dumb hobby.

460
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,720
Cook's thatch bar, thank you very much.

461
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,840
Yeah, somebody may get a weird idea in their head or who knows.

462
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,560
But your husband's a techie type guy, right?

463
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,200
Yes, he is.

464
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:39,700
He'll help me.

465
00:22:39,820 --> 00:22:41,140
Love that little...

466
00:22:41,140 --> 00:22:44,340
He's just mining the information there.

467
00:22:45,060 --> 00:22:46,200
Just that little...

468
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,580
Look at that little...

469
00:22:47,580 --> 00:22:48,040
Right?

470
00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:50,880
Techie type guy, right?

471
00:22:52,340 --> 00:22:52,780
He is.

472
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,060
Nathan Havko says,

473
00:22:56,260 --> 00:22:58,260
Stu is trying to undermine the marriage.

474
00:22:58,860 --> 00:23:00,280
But I mean, she's...

475
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,720
Is she not doing that herself?

476
00:23:01,940 --> 00:23:02,720
Of her own volition?

477
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,160
I don't think there's anything necessary.

478
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,480
But Stu's just...

479
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,540
He's got a cauldron there.

480
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,400
He's just stirring the pot inside of it.

481
00:23:09,460 --> 00:23:10,500
He's, you know...

482
00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:11,180
Techie type...

483
00:23:11,180 --> 00:23:12,740
He's a techie guy like me.

484
00:23:12,980 --> 00:23:13,440
Isn't he alright?

485
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,920
Helped me with the whole thing, so...

486
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,760
What kind of feedback have you gotten at all?

487
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,460
I mean, do people try to find you?

488
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,140
Meet you?

489
00:23:20,780 --> 00:23:22,100
Get involved in some way?

490
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,460
The feedback I've gotten is very positive.

491
00:23:23,460 --> 00:23:24,380
It's...

492
00:23:24,380 --> 00:23:26,980
People are just very interested in it.

493
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,520
And they're very interested in my life.

494
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,680
What I do...

495
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,180
What I do on a daily basis.

496
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,020
Look at Stu here.

497
00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:35,020
He's really a charmer.

498
00:23:35,420 --> 00:23:36,560
A real snake...

499
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,480
Snake charmer.

500
00:23:37,900 --> 00:23:39,300
Mark, formerly Small Clothes.

501
00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:39,920
Thank you very much.

502
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,140
You can see the smile on Stu's face here.

503
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:43,800
I don't know if...

504
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,320
I might have to zoom in for it.

505
00:23:45,820 --> 00:23:47,040
But you can see his...

506
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,420
The grin begins to form when she's talking.

507
00:23:49,420 --> 00:23:49,920
And then...

508
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,520
Keep your eye on the hand gestures here.

509
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,040
Some very interesting things going on down south there.

510
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,700
I've gotten it very positive.

511
00:23:58,660 --> 00:24:00,880
People are just very interested in it.

512
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,460
And they're very interested in my life.

513
00:24:02,580 --> 00:24:03,320
What I do.

514
00:24:03,540 --> 00:24:05,060
What I do on a daily basis.

515
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,880
What I'm thinking.

516
00:24:07,260 --> 00:24:09,300
Does it change what you do on a daily basis?

517
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:09,940
Or how do you think?

518
00:24:09,940 --> 00:24:10,280
No, it doesn't.

519
00:24:10,540 --> 00:24:16,480
I know I used to get up in the morning and go on there with my cup of coffee and my hair back and no makeup.

520
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,200
Well, I recognize you here in Cybersmith, so...

521
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:19,700
I guess...

522
00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:23,200
In Cybersmith, so...

523
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,700
I'm not too different.

524
00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:24,080
I guess I'm not too different.

525
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:24,360
I have to change your life somehow.

526
00:24:24,660 --> 00:24:25,520
Thanks so much.

527
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:26,180
Thank you.

528
00:24:26,420 --> 00:24:29,320
That again, a lovely bit of small talk at the end there.

529
00:24:29,460 --> 00:24:32,420
Coffee and my hair back and no makeup.

530
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,080
Well, I recognize you here in Cybersmith, so...

531
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:35,780
I guess I'm not too different.

532
00:24:35,780 --> 00:24:36,460
I have to change your life somehow.

533
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,380
Thanks so much.

534
00:24:38,580 --> 00:24:39,780
Change your life somehow.

535
00:24:40,260 --> 00:24:42,040
Thank you very much there, Shiteguides.

536
00:24:43,180 --> 00:24:45,260
People getting undressed, you know, on the bathroom.

537
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:45,860
Twisted.

538
00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:49,760
Sorry there.

539
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,120
Just have to get the banana bowl in here.

540
00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:57,300
Is Chip your real name, by the way, or is that a persona for the website?

541
00:24:57,380 --> 00:24:58,480
No, now it's my real name.

542
00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,540
Take your clothes off, Chip.

543
00:24:59,780 --> 00:25:04,040
I don't, you know, take off my clothes on request because it's not a service I'm providing.

544
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,680
Right, right.

545
00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:05,300
Thanks a lot, Chip.

546
00:25:05,380 --> 00:25:05,700
Sure thing.

547
00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:12,360
Stu's Denim Charm, thank you very much.

548
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,480
So this is where we left it the last day.

549
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,280
Would you believe it took us two and a half hours?

550
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:22,740
Was that...

551
00:25:22,740 --> 00:25:23,280
Maybe...

552
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:23,780
Maybe...

553
00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:26,800
Did it take two and a half hours to dissect 15 minutes of this?

554
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:27,580
I'm not sure.

555
00:25:27,660 --> 00:25:28,780
Let's just keep going anyway.

556
00:25:29,220 --> 00:25:35,340
I'm really excited to find out Miss Withers's presentational style.

557
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,480
Who is Miss Withers, you ask?

558
00:25:38,860 --> 00:25:40,200
Well, I'll have to show you.

559
00:25:40,340 --> 00:25:41,120
It's this lass.

560
00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:42,120
Twisted.

561
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:43,020
Twisted.

562
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:43,920
Twisted.

563
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:44,760
Twisted.

564
00:25:45,180 --> 00:25:45,660
Twisted.

565
00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:46,580
Twisted.

566
00:25:47,020 --> 00:25:47,520
Twisted.

567
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,420
Twisted.

568
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:49,240
Twisted.

569
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,640
Thank you.

570
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,520
Cash cam.

571
00:25:59,180 --> 00:26:00,200
There she is again.

572
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,320
Conway Twitty, thank you very much.

573
00:26:03,660 --> 00:26:05,440
Hello, darling. Pleased to meet you.

574
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,220
It's been a long time.

575
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:10,400
You're still as lovely.

576
00:26:15,020 --> 00:26:16,920
Look at the state of that cat.

577
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,240
It's a right mess.

578
00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:22,720
It's an old looking cat, though.

579
00:26:23,420 --> 00:26:24,760
But it's scary enough looking.

580
00:26:26,940 --> 00:26:28,940
Geography Jill, thank you very much.

581
00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:30,380
I hope you're getting on well.

582
00:26:33,140 --> 00:26:35,120
Are you fucking serious here?

583
00:26:35,740 --> 00:26:38,280
Sorry, we just had a tip here from Geography Jill.

584
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,680
It said, according to the Wikipedia,

585
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,220
she has a son named Chip who appeared on his show to discuss web chicks.

586
00:26:43,340 --> 00:26:43,940
The plot thickens.

587
00:26:44,340 --> 00:26:48,280
Actually, I think that that is bollocks.

588
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:48,880
Bollocks.

589
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:54,000
Because people might be editing Wikipedia articles there as a laugh.

590
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,040
And so you might have been duped.

591
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,960
Don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia.

592
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,520
Because people just edit the articles willy-nilly.

593
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,840
Should they tell you that?

594
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,580
If you're doing an academic fucking dissertation and everything like that,

595
00:27:08,580 --> 00:27:10,920
you're not allowed to quote Wikipedia because it's not right.

596
00:27:11,820 --> 00:27:13,780
It's not legit, is it?

597
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,340
Thank you very much.

598
00:27:15,420 --> 00:27:16,680
Banana strings are delicious.

599
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,680
And Barry Garlow as well.

600
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,540
I hope you're getting on well.

601
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,920
Can you see a revival of the Tech Magazine show format?

602
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:24,580
Who would be the ideal host?

603
00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:29,460
Look, I'm going to throw my hat in the ring, even though I'm not wearing a hat at the moment.

604
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,940
And I haven't professionally trained in the art of presentation.

605
00:27:34,660 --> 00:27:40,220
I would love to get a show of this caliber going.

606
00:27:40,820 --> 00:27:43,600
But, you know, it's a big production.

607
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,680
You need a lot of hands on deck.

608
00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:47,840
You need to be in the heart of the action.

609
00:27:47,980 --> 00:27:50,480
You need to be in fucking Silicon Valley.

610
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,340
And that's just too far away, like, you know.

611
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,080
I like Mayo.

612
00:27:56,780 --> 00:28:00,740
But the unfortunate thing, there is no tech hub here.

613
00:28:01,460 --> 00:28:04,580
But look, I'm enjoying looking at this show anyway.

614
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,100
And if it was not me anyways, who would you like to see doing it?

615
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,280
Fuck, I don't know.

616
00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:14,120
It's a good question.

617
00:28:14,300 --> 00:28:14,880
I'm stumped.

618
00:28:14,980 --> 00:28:16,180
I have to think about it.

619
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,600
But let's have a look at this anyway.

620
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:23,300
Chris, what exactly is a webcam archivist?

621
00:28:24,220 --> 00:28:25,480
Chipperbait, thank you very much.

622
00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:28,080
And Barry Garlow, thank you very much as well.

623
00:28:28,180 --> 00:28:31,840
Now, here she is, Jane Twisted Withers.

624
00:28:32,180 --> 00:28:37,300
And I'm glad that she is with us now to fucking do the rest of the show.

625
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:40,260
And present this little Linkenstein.

626
00:28:42,060 --> 00:28:43,000
What's going to happen?

627
00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:43,960
I haven't.

628
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,620
I was considering watching the rest of the show

629
00:28:46,620 --> 00:28:48,340
in preparation for the stream.

630
00:28:48,740 --> 00:28:50,160
But I thought, fuck it.

631
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,680
It could be funny if I just see it fresh.

632
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:53,620
With fresh eyes.

633
00:28:53,740 --> 00:28:55,540
The same way it was the other night as well.

634
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:57,520
Somebody who collects...

635
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,640
Smooth shot.

636
00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,500
Thank you very much.

637
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,540
That sounded like you just said someone who collects shit.

638
00:29:04,260 --> 00:29:06,820
And what a freeze frame to start on as well.

639
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,120
It's a beautiful scenario.

640
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:09,120
It's a beautiful scenario.

641
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:09,380
It's a beautiful scenario.

642
00:29:12,380 --> 00:29:13,880
There's a lot of joy.

643
00:29:15,380 --> 00:29:15,940
Right.

644
00:29:16,940 --> 00:29:19,620
Chris, what exactly is a webcam archivist?

645
00:29:20,020 --> 00:29:25,840
Somebody who collects images from a webcam and categorizes them for people to review it at a later time.

646
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,180
What an amazing top that is as well.

647
00:29:29,260 --> 00:29:31,360
It's a crazy, crazy scenario.

648
00:29:31,540 --> 00:29:32,700
A lovely bit of weavery.

649
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,680
And it's a kind of...

650
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,920
He definitely has a lot of Terry Pratchett novels in the attic, I'd say.

651
00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:48,180
And he definitely likes dungeon crawler games and that kind of shenanigans as well.

652
00:29:48,780 --> 00:29:51,180
It's a plain white T underneath.

653
00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:51,740
Large.

654
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:52,960
Larger than large.

655
00:29:53,140 --> 00:29:54,480
And it's a cyber mullet.

656
00:29:55,140 --> 00:30:00,720
And a lovely goaty section there on the face as well.

657
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,580
The angel of the lane.

658
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,700
Thank you very much there.

659
00:30:02,820 --> 00:30:04,460
And a clone named Gibsoe as well.

660
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,300
Thank you very much.

661
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:06,740
Webcam.

662
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,100
Exactly as a webcam archivist.

663
00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:15,320
Somebody who collects images from a webcam and categorizes them for people to view it at a later time.

664
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,360
Is this like a new industry?

665
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,160
Is there more than just one of you out there?

666
00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:20,060
There's lots of people who are doing archives.

667
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,580
And I think probably has about 10 different people who are doing archives.

668
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,440
Some of them just...

669
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,840
Love this kind of stuff here.

670
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,240
Where is this camera guy getting this shot?

671
00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:30,600
Is he on a balcony or something?

672
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,580
Because then you have another guy as well.

673
00:30:32,620 --> 00:30:35,300
These are broadcast quality fucking heavy rigs.

674
00:30:35,340 --> 00:30:36,600
Brian Coney, thank you very much.

675
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,820
Heavy rig cameras like, you know?

676
00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:42,220
Simply collect the images and store them on the system.

677
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,820
SDI cables.

678
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,720
The whole shebang.

679
00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:49,260
Some of them do like me and break them up so that you can view them in a little bit more organized manner.

680
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,820
So I think it's important to say that you're basically archiving and...

681
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,460
What the fuck is that?

682
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,560
This is a webcam of someone, is it?

683
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,160
I didn't go to sleep until 10am.

684
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,240
I was playing with Paint Shop Pro.

685
00:31:02,580 --> 00:31:04,580
So I'll be sleeping all day again.

686
00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:06,220
She...

687
00:31:06,220 --> 00:31:08,160
She looks dead.

688
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,140
I hope she woke up.

689
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,720
Anna Vogt's website.

690
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,280
And Anna's on in front of her webcam.

691
00:31:16,580 --> 00:31:16,680
Wow.

692
00:31:16,740 --> 00:31:17,560
Seven days a week.

693
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,260
Little enhancement there.

694
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,660
24 hours a day.

695
00:31:20,780 --> 00:31:21,080
Absolutely.

696
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:21,860
And now what exactly...

697
00:31:21,860 --> 00:31:23,660
How exactly are you archiving in...

698
00:31:23,660 --> 00:31:27,760
I've got a camera or a computer that's capturing images 24 hours a day.

699
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,500
Ming Flanagan, thank you very much.

700
00:31:30,580 --> 00:31:31,620
Saving them off the hard disk.

701
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,260
I then go through those and kind of filter through them.

702
00:31:34,580 --> 00:31:36,600
Pull out the important stuff and get rid of the rest of it.

703
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,720
And put it on my PC.

704
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,020
What's he...

705
00:31:38,020 --> 00:31:40,300
Basically a little story that you can see...

706
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:41,660
What's he archiving here?

707
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,620
Dungeon Archivist.

708
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,300
Thank you very much.

709
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,460
What's the archive about?

710
00:31:44,620 --> 00:31:45,680
I didn't get that bit.

711
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,920
He's a web archivist.

712
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,320
He's a webcam archivist, is he?

713
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:50,240
What Anna's day was...

714
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,440
He's just saving...

715
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,940
He's saving videos of women sleeping on a hard drive.

716
00:31:56,660 --> 00:31:57,680
Out in the open.

717
00:31:57,980 --> 00:31:58,940
It's like...

718
00:31:58,940 --> 00:32:00,520
This was the wild west of the internet.

719
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,220
And now he's on TV talking about it in an interview.

720
00:32:03,860 --> 00:32:06,060
Like it's just a normal everyday thing.

721
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,720
Like now...

722
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,700
Help me understand this.

723
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,480
What kind of people are going to this website?

724
00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:11,200
I mean what...

725
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:11,700
Why?

726
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,980
There's only one word for it.

727
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,020
And it's this.

728
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:16,960
Twisted.

729
00:32:17,340 --> 00:32:17,820
Twisted.

730
00:32:18,260 --> 00:32:18,700
Twisted.

731
00:32:19,180 --> 00:32:19,620
Twisted.

732
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:20,500
Twisted.

733
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,960
And Buck Mulligan.

734
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,860
Thank you very much Buck Mulligan for the tip there.

735
00:32:24,940 --> 00:32:25,900
I hope you're getting on well.

736
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,340
And Hot Webcam Archivist.

737
00:32:28,660 --> 00:32:30,340
Primarily I think voyeurs go originally.

738
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,680
You know they're out looking for people looking for naked women online.

739
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:34,180
Yeah.

740
00:32:34,820 --> 00:32:37,740
You heard it here first folks.

741
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,300
Tonight at 9 on Dispatches.

742
00:32:40,420 --> 00:32:43,000
They're out looking for people looking for naked women online.

743
00:32:43,340 --> 00:32:43,500
Yeah.

744
00:32:44,140 --> 00:32:48,760
And Anna happens to be on many sites that collect links to these sites.

745
00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:49,320
What?

746
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:50,700
And look at this here look.

747
00:32:53,460 --> 00:32:54,500
Tech girls.

748
00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,360
Yeah.

749
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:01,540
Do you want to come round tonight lads?

750
00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:05,080
I've downloaded fucking tech girls off Pirate Bay.

751
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,160
We need to run a fucking virtual machine to run it though.

752
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:12,160
Doesn't work on Windows 10.

753
00:33:12,860 --> 00:33:14,520
Tried it.

754
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,100
Tried it.

755
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,580
And so they end up there.

756
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,660
So what's Anna all about?

757
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,800
Is this a sex site?

758
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:26,800
Absolutely not.

759
00:33:26,940 --> 00:33:27,100
No.

760
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,880
Anna is about all kinds of things.

761
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,400
A lot of paradoxical things.

762
00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:31,040
How so?

763
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,240
You know she says her site's not about sex.

764
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,880
But there's certainly a bunch of nudity.

765
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,260
And there's actually been sex on the site.

766
00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:38,380
Well if she's on 24...

767
00:33:38,380 --> 00:33:46,720
Twisted.

768
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:47,620
Twisted.

769
00:33:47,980 --> 00:33:48,500
Twisted.

770
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,380
Twisted.

771
00:33:49,780 --> 00:33:50,260
Twisted.

772
00:33:50,260 --> 00:33:50,260
Twisted.

773
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,760
Anaconda G.

774
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,740
Thank you very much.

775
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,780
For the 420.

776
00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:05,380
And Twisted Metal.

777
00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:06,600
Thank you very much as well.

778
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,880
And Buck Mulligan.

779
00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:11,200
Who says he basically looks like every hack from CSI Las Vegas.

780
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:11,540
This fella.

781
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,040
4 hours a day.

782
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:12,900
7 days a week.

783
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,300
There's a whole bunch of things.

784
00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:15,960
Not just sex.

785
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,380
That's her life.

786
00:34:16,380 --> 00:34:17,340
That's happening on there too.

787
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,880
So now what...

788
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,160
What do you think prompts Anna to do this?

789
00:34:21,420 --> 00:34:22,120
Poddy Bob.

790
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:22,840
Thank you very much.

791
00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:23,600
And Tasty Hash.

792
00:34:23,740 --> 00:34:24,460
And Twisted Metal.

793
00:34:24,460 --> 00:34:25,960
Was in Mayo for the week on holidays.

794
00:34:26,580 --> 00:34:28,060
With not a screed of internet.

795
00:34:28,380 --> 00:34:28,840
Or data.

796
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,400
Did you finish Resident Evil Village FC?

797
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:31,440
No we haven't finished it.

798
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,660
I was even looking forward to playing it.

799
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,660
I was going to play it today.

800
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:35,640
But I thought.

801
00:34:35,780 --> 00:34:36,100
Fuck it.

802
00:34:36,220 --> 00:34:37,480
We'll just leave it for a day.

803
00:34:37,660 --> 00:34:40,280
And then play the Computer Chronicles.

804
00:34:40,380 --> 00:34:41,620
Or the Net Cafe one today.

805
00:34:42,980 --> 00:34:46,080
Partially that she's a bit of an exhibitionist.

806
00:34:46,140 --> 00:34:46,600
Part of it.

807
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:47,840
I think that she's a performer.

808
00:34:48,740 --> 00:34:49,480
What's this here?

809
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:49,740
Look.

810
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,840
I'm interested in these little bits.

811
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,000
In the background here.

812
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,500
Monday at 8.

813
00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:57,420
Monday at 8 on 4.

814
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,340
Dispatches unwraps the story behind...

815
00:34:59,340 --> 00:35:00,340
People getting undressed.

816
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:00,640
You know.

817
00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:01,400
On the bathroom.

818
00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:04,340
I love the little stings now.

819
00:35:04,420 --> 00:35:05,620
When a tip comes in.

820
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,380
Sometimes I get this dispatches one.

821
00:35:07,580 --> 00:35:08,620
That is just Stu going.

822
00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:10,220
People.

823
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,400
Watching people undressed.

824
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,140
In the bathroom.

825
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,100
Twisted.

826
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Okay.

827
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:14,620
Okay.

828
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:14,860
Right.

829
00:35:15,420 --> 00:35:16,940
I have a life.

830
00:35:17,020 --> 00:35:18,480
It says on that fucking t-shirt.

831
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,480
I need...

832
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,980
I need...

833
00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:25,860
I need not have a life...

834
00:35:25,860 --> 00:35:29,860
When something darn close.

835
00:35:29,860 --> 00:35:30,940
Or...

836
00:35:30,940 --> 00:35:31,160
Fuck.

837
00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:31,600
I don't know.

838
00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:33,260
Performer.

839
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:34,760
She enjoys performing.

840
00:35:35,060 --> 00:35:36,220
So she does do performances.

841
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,680
Crazy bit of business.

842
00:35:38,020 --> 00:35:38,300
Absolutely.

843
00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:39,740
Is it every day?

844
00:35:39,740 --> 00:35:40,500
Or is it...

845
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:40,780
No.

846
00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:41,040
No.

847
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,740
I wonder where she is now.

848
00:35:42,860 --> 00:35:43,720
And what she's at.

849
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:44,960
And we don't even...

850
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,420
Did we get a name on this guys?

851
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,560
Because you guys are the other...

852
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,840
There's two parts of this fucking stream.

853
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:56,820
As I found out with the Chip Chronicle the last day.

854
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:57,800
There's...

855
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,800
I'm presenting this stuff here to you.

856
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:00,580
I'm showing it to you.

857
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,520
And then...

858
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,500
It's like yin and yang.

859
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:03,960
And you're going out there.

860
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,460
And fucking yanging the stuff.

861
00:36:05,820 --> 00:36:06,660
And bringing it back.

862
00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:07,380
And we've...

863
00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:09,380
It happened with the Stockhammer Chronicles.

864
00:36:09,620 --> 00:36:11,460
It happened with the Chip Diaries.

865
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,500
And it's even happened with Net Cafe Show.

866
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,820
I would have never have found this.

867
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,140
Had it not been for Tobes.

868
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,580
Really hammering it home.

869
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,780
Making sure I seen it.

870
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,660
Took you a few goals there.

871
00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:22,120
Tobes.

872
00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:24,640
To make me fucking put it on.

873
00:36:25,220 --> 00:36:27,200
And I was putting it on the back burner.

874
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,320
But I'm glad that it's been pushed to the front now.

875
00:36:29,380 --> 00:36:29,920
Every so often.

876
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,220
When she feels like it.

877
00:36:30,220 --> 00:36:31,220
When she's motivated.

878
00:36:31,340 --> 00:36:32,060
When she's inspired.

879
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,980
And she is actually a musician as well.

880
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:35,100
Cactus Rider.

881
00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:36,020
Thank you very much.

882
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,100
I hope you're getting on well.

883
00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:37,380
Absolutely.

884
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,180
She's got a new record coming out.

885
00:36:40,340 --> 00:36:41,120
Beginning of the year.

886
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,780
With Radioactive Records.

887
00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:44,260
I think they're a subsidy of Sony.

888
00:36:44,540 --> 00:36:46,500
Some great graphics there.

889
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:48,880
Early late 90s graphics.

890
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,120
Real player kind of vibes.

891
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,300
And what the hell is this?

892
00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:54,960
An audio active player.

893
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,580
And look at some of the rubbish titles of the tracks.

894
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,020
That are there.

895
00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:01,920
The Vogue.

896
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,260
Big Audio Dynamite.

897
00:37:05,180 --> 00:37:06,260
Black Grape.

898
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,940
Which is actually the name of a band.

899
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:09,540
Dig.

900
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,620
Elysian Fields.

901
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,040
And Fatima Mansions.

902
00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:15,360
Would you believe there's one called Fatima Mansions.

903
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:16,660
Down there.

904
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,700
So that's.

905
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:19,900
That's something.

906
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,560
Beginning of the year.

907
00:37:21,060 --> 00:37:22,200
With Radioactive Records.

908
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,680
I think they're a subsidy of Sony.

909
00:37:23,940 --> 00:37:25,280
So how did you get linked up with Anna?

910
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,700
I was on a site.

911
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:27,700
Anna.

912
00:37:27,860 --> 00:37:28,560
Her name's Anna.

913
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:29,820
Early webcam.

914
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,400
Late 90s.

915
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,580
Early webcam girl.

916
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:33,540
Kind of vibe.

917
00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:36,660
That was all about webcams.

918
00:37:36,940 --> 00:37:38,340
And she showed up one day.

919
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,580
And was talking about the webcam.

920
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,480
That she was going to start.

921
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,540
In about a month or so.

922
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,440
And she pointed a couple of us off.

923
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:43,860
To her.

924
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,560
Her radioactive site.

925
00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:46,440
Where they have a record.

926
00:37:46,940 --> 00:37:47,880
And stuff about her.

927
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,660
And we click.

928
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:51,980
Whenever I watch it.

929
00:37:52,060 --> 00:37:54,040
Devolt your streams to 144p.

930
00:37:54,140 --> 00:37:55,280
Now that's real player vibes.

931
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,900
Is everybody watching on 144p?

932
00:37:57,940 --> 00:37:58,640
I hope not.

933
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,740
Can you tell me if you're watching on 144p everyone.

934
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,580
Or if it's okay.

935
00:38:05,740 --> 00:38:05,980
If it's.

936
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:06,740
Alright good stuff.

937
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,080
Thank you.

938
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:07,680
The rest is history.

939
00:38:08,060 --> 00:38:08,740
Great stuff.

940
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:09,720
So now tell me.

941
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:11,860
Not that it even matters that it's 1080p.

942
00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:14,200
Because we're watching a 480p video.

943
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:14,480
So.

944
00:38:14,620 --> 00:38:16,400
I'm behind the computer as it were.

945
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,220
Behind the camera.

946
00:38:17,340 --> 00:38:18,780
Are you going to do the same thing?

947
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,920
Are you going to get in front of the camera?

948
00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:21,060
I'd like to.

949
00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:21,280
Track your life?

950
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:21,860
I'd like to.

951
00:38:21,860 --> 00:38:21,880
I'd like to.

952
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,320
No my life.

953
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,560
I have a studio at home.

954
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:24,780
And I'd like to do the studio cam.

955
00:38:24,820 --> 00:38:25,560
When I'm playing music.

956
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:26,180
You know.

957
00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:26,700
Turn it on.

958
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:28,340
Have people see what I'm doing.

959
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:29,120
But.

960
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:36,140
140 fucking p automatically when viewing on a phone oh that's that's in your settings is it

961
00:38:36,140 --> 00:38:41,580
i believe maybe automatically it might go to a 144p scenario there

962
00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:51,260
hold on hold on a moment there maybe because i cranked up the fucking output uh bitrate for the

963
00:38:51,260 --> 00:38:57,860
resident evil i need to crank it back down again for this so uh give us a moment there now let's

964
00:38:57,860 --> 00:39:10,460
see we'll go back to is it three five zero zero maybe that'll do it i've cranked down the bitrate

965
00:39:10,460 --> 00:39:14,280
anyway if that has any effect i don't know if that's going to have any effect but anyway fuck it

966
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,180
just when you're playing your music yeah i have a full-time job during the day too so i guess that

967
00:39:19,180 --> 00:39:23,540
might be interesting to watch me sit in front of a computer all day no that's okay unless you're

968
00:39:23,540 --> 00:39:27,820
doing some really interesting things but so tell me what's the future there's a bit of awkward

969
00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:36,280
goodness there was there i'd like my life i have a stick tell me you spend a lot of time behind the

970
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,420
computer as it were behind the camera are you going to do the same thing are you gonna get in front of

971
00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:45,600
the camera and i'd like to i'd like my life i have a studio at home and i'd like to do the studio cam

972
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,480
when i'm playing music you know turn it on uh have people see what i'm doing but just when you're

973
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,760
playing your music yeah i have a full-time job during the day too so i guess that might be interesting to

974
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,140
watch me sit in front of a computer all day no that's okay unless you're doing some really interesting

975
00:39:59,140 --> 00:40:04,660
things but so tell me what's the future i mean is everybody gonna have a webcam at home and be online

976
00:40:04,660 --> 00:40:14,120
i think i think i love the uh oblique angles which were a staple of late 90s mtv generation kind of uh

977
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:26,780
sorry we've got a twisted clip come through put me off there it's twisted twisted twisted twisted twisted twisted twisted i think i'm gonna change that actually because it gets a bit annoying after a while

978
00:40:26,780 --> 00:40:43,160
but uh but uh these things were everywhere they were on channel 4 the word uh anything that was a bit trendy or kind of out there they had this kind of stuff going on as well but they've stopped doing it now have they i haven't seen any camera angles like this being used in tv shows

979
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,840
more and more people are going to be broadcasting video over the web as we

980
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:54,680
get higher and higher bandwidth but at home showing your life possibly possibly

981
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,840
worldwide web in a new dimension yeah I've actually been working on another

982
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:04,460
site that's kind of like a TV station format of webcam so you take the various

983
00:41:04,460 --> 00:41:08,200
cams and you give everybody a slot during the day here's your hour here's

984
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:17,620
your Wow look at this Chris Roberts sound shaman celestial spec Chris Roberts

985
00:41:17,620 --> 00:41:26,080
sound shaman celestial spec this page will contain a few of my favorite things it

986
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:31,660
says buddy a slot during the day here's your hour here's your hour and then people

987
00:41:31,660 --> 00:41:38,040
have a little look at this look at these websites if I was to make a website now

988
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:43,800
I would like to make it like one of these kind of really early looking websites

989
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:49,280
that's just fucking terrible to look at just to annoy people welcome to the home

990
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:59,760
page of Chris Roberts Chris Roberts has page will contain a few of my favorite

991
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:06,040
things it will contain it's like something you'd make in HTML programming class when

992
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:15,600
you're doing a course it will contain links to other things I find interesting and friends blah

993
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:23,380
blah blah and then Facebook and Bebo and all these other myspace came along and were like people can't

994
00:42:23,380 --> 00:42:28,960
make websites and when they can they're shite why don't we make a tailor-made template for everybody

995
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:35,740
so everyone has their own website and thus an extension of their own personality a shop window

996
00:42:35,740 --> 00:42:43,660
front for their own personality online which they can update all the time and they themselves become

997
00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:51,540
a brand unto themselves and then it's given way now to Instagram hyper hyper fast fucking

998
00:42:51,540 --> 00:42:59,440
imaginationsville I'm trying to I'm trying to get across something here that I don't have the

999
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:05,440
vocabulary to fucking to to speak about but I think you know what I'm talking about I

1000
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,700
may not be logical but I think I know what I'm talking about Vulcan Raven thank you very much and

1001
00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:28,360
clone name gibso and your performance and you don't go and just watch somebody 24 hours a day but a whole different experience but you'd boggle boggle and look at this quick cabin that was a was that a webcam manual or is that a webcam in a box

1002
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,360
*mimicking*

1003
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,220
Actually see various people on webcams doing various different things sounds pretty interesting Chris

1004
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:45,720
Didn't sound interesting what whatsoever and that hard cut was like a piss take it was almost if they were like that wasn't interesting

1005
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,680
Very this again, you know, we've seen we've seen it

1006
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:57,680
We know it isn't interesting then listen to the hard cyber blast course that they throw in there a real F

1007
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,620
you to Chris there and thank you very much Chris McBee for the tip and

1008
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,180
Vulcan Raven

1009
00:44:05,180 --> 00:44:11,180
Who is giant and shabing go and just watch somebody 24 hours a day a whole different experience, but you'd actually see

1010
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,120
Various people on webcams doing various different things sounds pretty interesting Chris

1011
00:44:18,140 --> 00:44:25,960
The web way station live NASA cams and mission displays from Kennedy Space Center page automatically reloads every four minutes

1012
00:44:26,660 --> 00:44:33,660
It's easy to back up your stream says Fionn in the chat, and I've seen your text there earlier on as well Fionn sorry for not say I

1013
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,280
Was too busy trying to fucking get this together

1014
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:40,660
You said there in the chat. It's very easy to back up your streams

1015
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,440
Thank you very much

1016
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,060
Poontang parade. Thank you very much. It's easy to back up your stream says Fionn

1017
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:59,140
J downloader is free and it lets you DL the entire playlist you'd fit all the streams on a 500 gig drive if you want me to start uploading them for you as a backup

1018
00:44:59,140 --> 00:45:07,520
Let me know it's okay Fionn you've given me the information I need and I will do with that information what I will and can

1019
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:16,440
Um and yeah J download is free. Maybe you work for J download. Maybe you invented J downloader though Fionn you know maybe

1020
00:45:16,860 --> 00:45:23,140
Maybe there's something dodge going on there. Maybe I'll be using J downloader and you'll be able to hack into my computer or something

1021
00:45:23,580 --> 00:45:28,100
Yeah, and now you've just said I don't ha ha ha ha ha in the chat look

1022
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:36,500
That's it's like you're in denial now is it Fionn yeah, you could be it could be it's suspicious. It's suspicious look

1023
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,360
Yeah

1024
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,360
Thanks for on thank you

1025
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:49,360
Anna update. Thank you very much in kill bot. We've got an update on Anna anguish panda. Thank you very much nice neck cafe stream to watch for

1026
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,360
I'm back to work tomorrow for a week off. That's nice

1027
00:45:54,240 --> 00:46:02,920
That's the tip there and the Bob Dylan slap on the 30th of July and I had her first child which was conceived birth and birthed on cam

1028
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:09,540
Crazy bit of business. That's that's fucking nuts. That is nuts. I wonder if that's up there

1029
00:46:09,540 --> 00:46:14,740
I tell you who would definitely have access to that footage this lad here Chris McBee

1030
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:22,000
Chris Roberts or Chris Roberts sorry not Christmas big Christmas B is the guy who tipped us there. Sorry about that Chris McBee

1031
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,000
I've just I just

1032
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:34,760
Sullied your name there is someone who has hard drives full of webcam women, but this guy here where archive the stuff does definitely definitely has that

1033
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,320
Footage I wonder would he sell it?

1034
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:46,060
Not that I buy it Andrew Considine. Thank you very much. Are you selling the t-shirts? I'm not selling any t-shirts

1035
00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:59,300
I'm not selling any t-shirts. What you think this is a t-shirt shop. It's a YouTube channel. Thank you very much for the tip and smoothshot95. Thank you very much and kill bot. Let's keep going here. Sounds pretty interesting Chris.

1036
00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:12,440
What a lovely little cut into Shafae's face

1037
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,320
That was, it was a hard

1038
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,980
Scratch cut into Shafae's face

1039
00:47:16,980 --> 00:47:18,760
And he was ready for the

1040
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,200
Ready for the taken

1041
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,340
So to speak

1042
00:47:21,340 --> 00:47:24,380
And there is the Bob Dylan slap signifying a tip

1043
00:47:24,380 --> 00:47:25,920
Donation from Heron

1044
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,580
Thank you very much there Heron

1045
00:47:27,580 --> 00:47:28,460
I hope you're getting on well

1046
00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:29,540
I've always liked your streaming on YouTube

1047
00:47:29,540 --> 00:47:31,960
I really don't like to watch Twitch's site at all

1048
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,200
But would it not be easier to Twitch instead

1049
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,560
Because of all the copyright reasons

1050
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,340
I don't really know

1051
00:47:38,340 --> 00:47:40,040
And you say that, I'm quoting you

1052
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:41,520
But I actually don't really know as well

1053
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,120
So it's, I really don't know

1054
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,680
Let's keep going with this

1055
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,340
Thank you very much for the tip

1056
00:47:47,340 --> 00:47:52,040
Don't wave at anybody, thank you very much

1057
00:47:57,620 --> 00:47:59,340
People getting undressed, you know, in the bathroom

1058
00:47:59,340 --> 00:48:02,460
Look at this here

1059
00:48:02,460 --> 00:48:03,500
Look at that

1060
00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:07,920
Here at Cybersmith's tonight is Larry Maggots

1061
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,320
Indicated

1062
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,680
Larry Maggots is after you

1063
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,880
This, this stream was meant to be, to be honest

1064
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,960
Larry

1065
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:25,760
Bob Dylan wind up slap nice, thank you very much

1066
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,360
And crazy prices, Lucan

1067
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,460
Thank you very much

1068
00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:34,120
Francis Higgins made possible in part by Hewlett Packard

1069
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:39,640
Working with industry leaders to ensure compatibility across the board and across the network

1070
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,120
HPPC, you're looking at

1071
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,680
Whoa

1072
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,840
Larry Maggots is coming right up

1073
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:47,900
The world is just going

1074
00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:55,320
Bob Dylan, nice slap, thank you very much

1075
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,280
Let's have a look at this

1076
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,120
Here at Cybersmith's tonight is Larry Maggots

1077
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,900
Indicated columnist with the LA Times

1078
00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:03,380
Contributing editor to HomePC

1079
00:49:03,380 --> 00:49:05,720
We're going to kind of take advantage of your being here Larry

1080
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:06,700
And pick your brain a bit

1081
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:07,660
In this show we're

1082
00:49:07,660 --> 00:49:11,640
We might just have a quick blast of

1083
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,220
One of the upcoming Dispatches episodes

1084
00:49:15,220 --> 00:49:16,680
Which is coming up there on

1085
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,140
On channel 4

1086
00:49:18,140 --> 00:49:19,580
Visual memory unit

1087
00:49:19,580 --> 00:49:20,740
Thank you very much for that

1088
00:49:20,740 --> 00:49:21,940
I hope you're getting on well

1089
00:49:21,940 --> 00:49:24,980
This is another one of the Dispatches episodes

1090
00:49:24,980 --> 00:49:27,620
Viewer discretion advised

1091
00:49:27,620 --> 00:49:34,480
That actually wasn't

1092
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:34,960
That was

1093
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,560
That was

1094
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:36,660
John Virgo

1095
00:49:36,660 --> 00:49:38,560
An image of John Virgo

1096
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,340
Sorry about that

1097
00:49:39,340 --> 00:49:39,940
That was the

1098
00:49:39,940 --> 00:49:41,360
Not the

1099
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,520
Not the fucking clip

1100
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,520
I was hoping to

1101
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,400
To put on there

1102
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,180
Sorry about that

1103
00:49:46,180 --> 00:49:52,440
That's a great one as well

1104
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:58,940
And Westside is best side

1105
00:49:58,940 --> 00:49:59,820
Thank you very much

1106
00:49:59,820 --> 00:50:01,180
Only thing missing here is the odd

1107
00:50:01,180 --> 00:50:02,740
MSN bleep in the background

1108
00:50:02,740 --> 00:50:04,420
For some serious authenticity

1109
00:50:04,420 --> 00:50:05,680
Look let's just keep going

1110
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,080
And see what this Larry Maggot guy looks like

1111
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,400
I'm doing on voyeurism tonight

1112
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,800
A lot of parents watch this and say

1113
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,460
Oh my goodness

1114
00:50:12,460 --> 00:50:14,200
My kids might be looking at some of this stuff

1115
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,580
That may not be appropriate

1116
00:50:15,580 --> 00:50:16,460
That may be nudity

1117
00:50:16,460 --> 00:50:18,300
Larry Maggots

1118
00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:19,680
Ladies and gentlemen

1119
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,880
Larry Maggots

1120
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:28,460
Is Chip your real name by the way or is that a persona for the website

1121
00:50:28,460 --> 00:50:29,640
No now it's my real name

1122
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:30,380
Take your clothes on

1123
00:50:30,380 --> 00:50:31,780
Thank you very much there

1124
00:50:31,780 --> 00:50:33,380
Barry Fruitfly

1125
00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:34,420
Thank you very much

1126
00:50:34,420 --> 00:50:37,380
Sexual content

1127
00:50:37,380 --> 00:50:38,260
You're a parent

1128
00:50:38,260 --> 00:50:42,660
Is there some simple advice how to manage your kids and keep them from these kinds of sites?

1129
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,260
Well I don't know fully how to manage kids if I did I'd be a

1130
00:50:45,260 --> 00:50:46,260
Oh it's Maggid

1131
00:50:46,260 --> 00:50:49,040
I thought it sounded like he said Maggots

1132
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,380
Larry Maggots is here

1133
00:50:50,380 --> 00:50:51,920
Larry Maggots is here

1134
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,360
Larry Maggots is here

1135
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,840
A world renowned expert

1136
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,180
But I do know you have to talk

1137
00:50:56,180 --> 00:50:59,300
Gibso says Larry is a mad Slipknot fan

1138
00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:03,760
And Kaffir says he looks like somebody watches cams

1139
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,460
And sure aren't you watching a cam now

1140
00:51:06,460 --> 00:51:08,900
You're watching a cam on I'm Camming

1141
00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:11,040
A twin cam

1142
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,000
That's when there's two of me

1143
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,220
Two of the Francis Higgins scene

1144
00:51:15,220 --> 00:51:16,220
And I'll show you that

1145
00:51:16,220 --> 00:51:20,440
I'll give you a taste of the twin cam lifestyle right now if you want

1146
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,900
Let's see what we can do here with a twin cam scenario guys

1147
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:27,220
Where it's going to get very very interesting

1148
00:51:27,220 --> 00:51:28,460
There we go

1149
00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:29,920
Twin cam me

1150
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,220
Maybe two of me

1151
00:51:32,220 --> 00:51:34,360
That'll do

1152
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:41,420
Trippy enough

1153
00:51:41,420 --> 00:51:43,440
Talk to them to begin with

1154
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,620
And you really have to instill in them a certain amount of judgment

1155
00:51:45,620 --> 00:51:47,620
If that doesn't work

1156
00:51:47,620 --> 00:51:50,100
If you really feel your kids are going to go and do something dangerous

1157
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:52,620
Then you do have the option of installing filters

1158
00:51:52,620 --> 00:51:56,460
Basically software that will prevent them from going to certain kinds of sites

1159
00:51:56,460 --> 00:51:57,080
What are some examples?

1160
00:51:57,620 --> 00:52:00,880
Get Nanny, Surf Watch, Cyber Patroller are three of the better known products

1161
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:01,380
Not of their work

1162
00:52:01,380 --> 00:52:08,180
What they do is they have hidden lists of basically bad sites sites that are sexually explicit, perhaps racist, violent, that you feel are inappropriate

1163
00:52:08,180 --> 00:52:12,480
Larry, Larry, thank you very much Larry and Larry Maggots

1164
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,840
Don't just install it and go with the defaults, you have to look

1165
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,940
You can set the parameters.

1166
00:52:15,940 --> 00:52:16,280
Absolutely.

1167
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,760
You can decide what it is that you need to filter out for your kids.

1168
00:52:20,180 --> 00:52:26,720
The other thing that they do is that they actually prevent or can be configured to prevent the kid from typing something that might get them into trouble,

1169
00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:30,140
like their name, like their home address, their phone number, where their parents work.

1170
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,420
So they don't just filter out what comes into the computer.

1171
00:52:33,740 --> 00:52:35,540
They can actually filter out what the kid can put out.

1172
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:36,380
And do they really work?

1173
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,380
They work.

1174
00:52:37,460 --> 00:52:38,840
However, there are a couple of caveats.

1175
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,400
Number one, they're not perfect.

1176
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,020
There are sites that will get in.

1177
00:52:42,340 --> 00:52:44,740
And two, they may block things that you might want your kids to use.

1178
00:52:44,740 --> 00:52:45,540
Larry, thanks a lot.

1179
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:45,980
My pleasure.

1180
00:52:47,220 --> 00:52:48,960
Sorry, I missed that one.

1181
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:49,380
I need to say.

1182
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:50,800
Larry, thanks a lot.

1183
00:52:50,860 --> 00:52:51,220
My pleasure.

1184
00:52:52,420 --> 00:52:56,240
You know, there's a lot of people with a lot of cams out there for a whole bunch of different reasons.

1185
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,160
Now, what?

1186
00:52:58,620 --> 00:52:59,600
Hang on, what's quickly?

1187
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:00,300
What's quickly?

1188
00:53:00,780 --> 00:53:02,040
What's everyone saying quickly for?

1189
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:03,840
I've got you two to get a lot of cams.

1190
00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:05,180
Larry, thanks a lot.

1191
00:53:05,260 --> 00:53:05,580
My pleasure.

1192
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,800
There are sites that will get in.

1193
00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:09,520
And two, they may block things that you might want your kids to use.

1194
00:53:09,620 --> 00:53:10,320
Larry, thanks a lot.

1195
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:10,760
My pleasure.

1196
00:53:12,140 --> 00:53:13,960
And two, there are a couple of cabs.

1197
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:15,820
They can have a phone number where they're picking the kid from typing.

1198
00:53:15,820 --> 00:53:17,600
Does he rush him?

1199
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,640
Does Shafir rush him by saying quickly?

1200
00:53:21,380 --> 00:53:21,740
Absolutely.

1201
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,100
That you configure them.

1202
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,100
Don't just install it and go with the defaults.

1203
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:25,620
You have to look.

1204
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:26,600
You can set the parameters.

1205
00:53:26,820 --> 00:53:26,980
Absolutely.

1206
00:53:26,980 --> 00:53:30,440
You can decide what it is that you need to filter out for your kids.

1207
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:37,400
The other thing that they do is that they actually prevent or can be configured to prevent the kid from typing something that might get them into trouble.

1208
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,800
Like their name, like their home address, their phone number, where their parents work.

1209
00:53:41,540 --> 00:53:44,100
So they don't just filter out what comes into the computer.

1210
00:53:44,420 --> 00:53:46,220
They can actually filter out what the kid can put out.

1211
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,060
And do they really work?

1212
00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:48,060
They work.

1213
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,520
However, there are a couple of caveats.

1214
00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:51,060
Number one, they're not perfect.

1215
00:53:51,060 --> 00:53:52,720
They're a site that will get in.

1216
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,520
Twisted.

1217
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:57,400
Twisted.

1218
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,320
Twisted.

1219
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,240
Twisted.

1220
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:00,400
Twisted.

1221
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:00,480
Twisted.

1222
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:06,580
Dispatches unwraps the story behind.

1223
00:54:06,580 --> 00:54:08,600
People getting undressed, you know, going to the bathroom.

1224
00:54:08,780 --> 00:54:09,120
Twisted.

1225
00:54:09,260 --> 00:54:12,080
Dispatches investigates Monday at 8 on 4.

1226
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:12,520
Twisted.

1227
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,520
Twisted.

1228
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,440
Twisted.

1229
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:24,760
Paul Schindler, a dispatcher's undercover investigation Monday at 8 on 4. Paul Schindler. Where's the cue ball going? Where's the cue ball going?

1230
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:41,700
Sorry there, just in case anyone who might have been dyslexic or fucking

1231
00:54:41,700 --> 00:54:54,460
Anyone who's epileptic, sorry about that. We didn't know, I forgot there was going to be flashes. I wonder if there's a bit of dyslexia going on there because I said dyslexic instead of epileptic.

1232
00:54:57,720 --> 00:54:59,560
Okay, quickly. Okay, quickly.

1233
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,100
And do they really work?

1234
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,700
And two, they make a lot of things that you might want your kids to use. Larry, thanks a lot. My pleasure.

1235
00:55:14,060 --> 00:55:16,220
Look at his face. The smile.

1236
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,840
Censorship. Thank you very much, censorship.

1237
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,880
Larry in your Jax cam, thank you very much.

1238
00:55:28,940 --> 00:55:30,360
Larry in the hedge, thank you very much.

1239
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,220
And Larry maggots, Tash and Barry fruit fly.

1240
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:33,960
Thank you very much.

1241
00:55:34,020 --> 00:55:35,040
And Westside, the best side.

1242
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:35,760
The best side.

1243
00:55:36,220 --> 00:55:36,960
Thank you very much.

1244
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:43,880
You know, there's a lot of people with a lot of cams out there for a whole bunch of different reasons.

1245
00:55:44,060 --> 00:55:44,900
Now, what's-

1246
00:55:44,900 --> 00:55:44,940
Twisted!

1247
00:55:45,780 --> 00:55:49,120
Brought you two together to do Dave and Liz's cam. What's that all about?

1248
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:49,480
Twisted!

1249
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,020
Basically family.

1250
00:55:51,020 --> 00:56:06,800
Top button done up to the nines. He's got a top button collar. It's not even a collar. It's just a shirt cuff. He's got a shirt cuff.

1251
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:21,040
And she's got a real nice jumper. They're living in LA together. It's a crazy bit of business. You know me.

1252
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:36,000
It's Liz Dillard. Liz and Dave Dillard's. The Dillard's. The Dillard's are coming round, honey.

1253
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:36,080
Honey.

1254
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,900
Honey. Make sure we're, uh, make sure the fridge is fully stocked. The Dillard's are coming round.

1255
00:56:44,940 --> 00:56:51,060
Make sure you've got a jumper for Dave. You know he only wears shirt. He only ever wears shirt when he's round.

1256
00:56:51,940 --> 00:56:56,260
The funny thing about Dave is he'd never wear a jumper, but Liz is out. She's always in one.

1257
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,640
In the middle of fucking summer. In the LA heat. Paolo Alto.

1258
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,440
Far away from-

1259
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,640
Even Liz's cam. What-

1260
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,940
The Dillard's are after you.

1261
00:57:06,780 --> 00:57:07,540
What's that all about?

1262
00:57:08,180 --> 00:57:12,000
Basically family. Being so far away from- from family.

1263
00:57:12,620 --> 00:57:16,140
So now- now what's the setup? What have you got? Dave, what's- how's it all set up?

1264
00:57:16,140 --> 00:57:19,660
He's so uncomfortable. He's very uncomfortable looking.

1265
00:57:19,740 --> 00:57:20,340
From family.

1266
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,840
So now- now what's the setup? What have you got? Dave, what's- how's it all set up?

1267
00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:26,440
You're the techno guy behind the scenes.

1268
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:27,340
Well, it's a-

1269
00:57:27,340 --> 00:57:33,980
Setup. What have you got? Dave, what's- how's it all set up? You're the techno guy behind the scenes.

1270
00:57:35,860 --> 00:57:38,900
Twisted. Twisted. Twisted.

1271
00:57:40,740 --> 00:57:41,440
Paul Schindler.

1272
00:57:41,540 --> 00:57:50,820
The Dillard's. The Dillard's. Thank you very much. And censorship. And Cromwell. Thank you very much.

1273
00:57:50,820 --> 00:57:58,420
Well, it's a- it's a- it's a connectics quick- twisted. Twisted. Twisted. Twisted. Twisted. Twisted. Twisted. Twisted. Sorry, I couldn't turn that off. Fucking hell. Thanks very much Cromwell for the tip.

1274
00:57:58,420 --> 00:58:07,620
Cam, uh, utilize an iSpy capture software. What it does is every two minutes from 8am to 8pm Pacific, it uploads an image to our website.

1275
00:58:07,620 --> 00:58:24,780
Absolute transhumanist, says Richard. This image is updated every two minutes from 8am to 8pm Pacific time, when online. And it's Dave and Liz's gaff. And it's Monday, January the 5th of 1998.

1276
00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:40,740
Uh, and 12 past 6 Pacific time. And there is Liz Dillard sitting down at the table. Or is it- is it them or is it their kids? I don't know. It's weird, isn't it? Why would you be fucking showing your family on a live cam to anyone?

1277
00:58:40,740 --> 00:58:43,680
So now basically you've got- now where's the cam? The cam's in the living room, right?

1278
00:58:44,380 --> 00:59:14,360
David Dillard's angry dick, thank you very much. It's in the living room, yes. But it stays in the living room all the time, so it's living room activity. We're talking about- Look, the loading- Do you remember before the broadband days when you just see that for ages? Images updated every time. Typically, typically, we have extension cords, we can pick up and move the camera anywhere basically in the house we want to. Now you've got a family, you've got three kids and yourselves that hang out in the living room, the TV's there and lots of other things going on. What prompted you to do this? I mean, what was the motivation between-

1279
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:40,360
Behind having this? Well, we've been involved with the online community for many years for running a bulletin board to- It's the Dillard billiard room. The Dillard- the Dillard Steiner. The Dillard got a billiard ball table and is crafting a savage Dillard room. Dave Dillard, thank you very much. We look like we kept someone in our basement because we did, says Dave Dillard.

1280
00:59:44,340 --> 01:00:05,180
To say hi to friends, family, meet new people and experiment. So it's been kind of an- Wow. Interesting experience. Look at this setup here. You've got a lovely little, uh, dashkin for your laptop. You've got power outlets. Paolo outlets. Paolo Alto power outlets there.

1281
01:00:05,340 --> 01:00:29,040
You've got fuckin' sheets with information on them. And look at that big, big, big, big, big real estate room there. How did it go bust? Do you know? This was, uh, uh, the vanguard of citizen netizenry of the late 90s. Lots of weird shit there. He plays WT, his Dillard. Thank you very much.

1282
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:41,640
Is that a face? Like, looks like two eyes there and then a nose, then a mouth and then lots of software underneath. Like a very weird, a very weird thing entirely. We don't know. Let's, let's just keep going.

1283
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:48,000
I read an article as I said this place went bust a year later. Liz, let me ask you. What do the kids think?

1284
01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:57,160
What do the kids think? Should the kids, the kids don't have any say in it. You're, uh, you're using, you're using your family as content.

1285
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,600
They like to get up and wave at the camera and talk.

1286
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,600
So they get pretty engaged. They don't forget the cameras there.

1287
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:03,600
No, not really.

1288
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,600
Okay. Now, what do their friends think?

1289
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,600
I'll tell you what they think.

1290
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:16,600
Twisted. Twisted. Twisted. Twisted. Twisted.

1291
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,600
Shtev, thank you very much.

1292
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,600
Dispatches unwraps the story behind...

1293
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,600
People getting undressed, you know, and going to the bathroom.

1294
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,600
Twisted. Dispatches investigates Monday at 8 on 4.

1295
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,600
Thanks very much, Shtev.

1296
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:34,600
Their friends think it's cool and interesting.

1297
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:35,600
How about your girlfriend?

1298
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,600
Doesn't sound very convincing, Liz.

1299
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,600
Liz does not sound convincing at all.

1300
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,600
She's struggling to come up with a convincing answer.

1301
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,600
Their clone name Gipshole, thank you very much, and Shtev as well.

1302
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,600
Okay. Now, what do their friends think?

1303
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,600
See this? Hanging in the air.

1304
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,600
The question was hanging. There's no answer for it.

1305
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,600
Because the friends don't think anything.

1306
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,600
Their friends think it's cool and interesting.

1307
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:05,600
They're going right on.

1308
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,600
How about your girlfriends? Now, that's the next question.

1309
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,600
I mean, what about your friends and family?

1310
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,600
What do they think about you guys being online with this cam in your house?

1311
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:14,600
Interesting.

1312
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,600
I haven't heard any negative feedback.

1313
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,600
My step-mom gets online.

1314
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,600
She'll check the seat for at home.

1315
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:22,600
Then she'll see.

1316
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:23,600
Thanks for the images.

1317
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,600
Look at this. We're mailing this.

1318
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,600
They're sending pictures of their family, is it?

1319
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:34,600
Out to fucking someone called Ball High at concentric.net.

1320
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,600
Thanks very much, Liz Loves.

1321
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:41,600
Ball High at concentric.net and greetings from cyberspace.

1322
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,600
Thanks for the images.

1323
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:44,600
Send us an instant message.

1324
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,600
Say hi, I saw you. Come chat with me.

1325
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:48,600
You know, so...

1326
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:53,600
That's a fucking soundboard, or if ever we wanted one, there's one right there.

1327
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,600
Hi, I saw you. Come chat with me.

1328
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:03,600
You know, so it's a way of letting family and friends know that we're okay.

1329
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:04,600
So now...

1330
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,600
Tell me a little bit about what your website looks like.

1331
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,600
You've got more than just the cam there, right?

1332
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,600
Yes, yes. We have a gallery of...

1333
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:17,600
Please don't go back to Big Sur.

1334
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,600
Thank you very much there, Moon Pie.

1335
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:21,600
And Liz Loves.

1336
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,600
There's a lot of links being sent to me here, guys.

1337
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,600
But you've got to understand, this is not Linkin Park.

1338
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,600
I can't be clicking every link that gets thrown my way, even though it's very...

1339
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,600
Tell you what, I'll review the links that get sent to me afterwards

1340
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,600
because I want to keep this show on the road.

1341
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,600
Should we spend an hour and a half going over ten minutes of the fucking stuff?

1342
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,600
Photographs and artwork...

1343
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,600
Ball deep. Concentric. Thank you very much.

1344
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,600
Three months we'll go in and change it out.

1345
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,600
Some months it'll be our son's artwork, our daughter's artwork, our pictures from trips.

1346
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,600
We also have an area that describes everyone in our family.

1347
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:56,600
A photograph of our daughters, photograph of our son and of us saying,

1348
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,600
"Okay, this is who we are and this is what we like to do."

1349
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:00,600
Now that kind of...

1350
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,600
That's another one for the soundboard, guys.

1351
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,600
This is who we are and this is what we like to do.

1352
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,600
Hey, I saw you. Come chat with me.

1353
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:10,600
Leads me to the next...

1354
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,600
...of us saying, "Okay, this is who we are and this is what we like to do."

1355
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,600
And I love these...

1356
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:23,600
Aside from the oblique Dutch angles which have been utilised by the MTV Gen X cameraman...

1357
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:29,600
We also have a series of CCTV odd voyeuristic...

1358
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,600
Is this Voyeurism Online episode?

1359
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,600
Does this... Is this the only episode that has these angles?

1360
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,600
The creepy shots, creep shots I call them.

1361
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,600
And why do they do this?

1362
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:48,600
It is a strange scenario entirely and one which can be seen this week on this week's Dispatches.

1363
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,600
...it could tune into that there as well.

1364
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,600
Web of darkness in the Dispatches there.

1365
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,600
Dispatches unwraps the story behind...

1366
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,600
People getting undressed, you know, going to the bathroom.

1367
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,600
Twisted!

1368
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,600
Dispatches investigates Monday at 8 on 4.

1369
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,600
Paul Schindler.

1370
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,600
A Dispatches undercover investigation.

1371
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,600
Monday at 8 on 4.

1372
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:09,600
Paul Schindler.

1373
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:10,600
Sniffering your turn off.

1374
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,600
Where's the cue ball going?

1375
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,600
Where's the cue ball going?

1376
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:24,600
Is Chip your real name by the way or is that a persona for the website?

1377
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:25,600
No, now it's my real name.

1378
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:26,600
Now it is.

1379
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,600
It was originally a nickname that got added to my name legally.

1380
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:30,600
Alright.

1381
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,600
A lot of the sites have a sort of sexual connotation of...

1382
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:33,600
Take your clothes off, Chip.

1383
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:34,600
Sure.

1384
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:35,600
Housewife Cam.

1385
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,600
Is there a kind of sexual connotation to it?

1386
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,600
I mean, you're a very attractive woman.

1387
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,600
A good looking lady who walks around sometimes with not too much clothes on.

1388
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:47,600
The shots you there sort of topless at the keyboard or hanging around and you know, small clothing.

1389
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,600
Additional funding is provided by the Software Publishers Association.

1390
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,600
Providers of educational materials to help manage software.

1391
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:58,600
Welcome.

1392
01:05:58,600 --> 01:05:59,600
Paul Schindler.

1393
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,600
Today, I'm Paul Schindler.

1394
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,600
Now there we go.

1395
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:03,600
Back to this again.

1396
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:04,600
Sorry about that.

1397
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:05,600
That was a bit long actually.

1398
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,600
I thought that was the dispatches clip.

1399
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:15,600
But it seems as though I have just exported the entire timeline of all the clips that I had.

1400
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:16,600
Thrills were class.

1401
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:17,600
Thank you very much there.

1402
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:18,600
I hope you're getting on well.

1403
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,600
Thank you very much for the tip and ball deep there at Concentric.

1404
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:22,600
Let's keep going with this.

1405
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,600
Well that kind of leads me to the next obvious question.

1406
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:29,600
There's a lot of fear out there, especially when it comes to kids getting online or getting into chat rooms and those types of things.

1407
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,600
But what you've now done is you've got this webcam in your house and your kids are there.

1408
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:34,600
Twisted.

1409
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:41,600
Are you frightened that you know some crazy is going to be out there who's a voyeur and he's checking out things and you know, hones in on your kids?

1410
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,600
Is that a fear of yours?

1411
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:43,600
Is it something you're concerned about?

1412
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:48,600
Not really because cyberspace has this this air of anonymity.

1413
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,600
What it does is we don't go on and say, okay, this is who we are.

1414
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:52,600
This is where we live.

1415
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:53,600
We're just on the web.

1416
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,600
We're Dave and we're Liz and we're out there.

1417
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,600
We're Dave and we're Liz and we're out there.

1418
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,600
But as far as fears, is someone coming to break into our house?

1419
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:01,600
Nah.

1420
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:02,600
So it's pretty much friendly stuff.

1421
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:06,600
You get emails and stuff and they're all pretty positive responses to what's going on.

1422
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,600
Sandra Joyce, thank you very much again.

1423
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,600
Very, very kind of you Sandra Joyce.

1424
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:11,600
Thank you very much.

1425
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:21,600
Not a very convincing comment there from the man about the likelihood of weirdos and dodgeballers looking in there and getting in touch.

1426
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,600
And then you can see the wife's face there.

1427
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,600
She really is not convinced here.

1428
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,600
She's been roped into this big time.

1429
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:34,600
I can tell she's been roped into this because that is a middle distance stare if ever I've seen one.

1430
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,600
The look of coercion.

1431
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,600
I'm not going to presume anything here but I don't think this was her idea.

1432
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,600
This whole webcam.

1433
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:55,600
If you were to look at the pictures of the two people and just from Adam just say which one of these two people set up webcams in their house to film their families.

1434
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,600
Was it suspect A?

1435
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:12,600
Or was it suspect B?

1436
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:23,680
And just to help you out with the selection process there, we will just put on a bit of

1437
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:34,160
background music just to help. It might go as far as just to help you with the selection,

1438
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:39,600
with your thinking, with the cognitive element of what you're doing there, you know.

1439
01:08:39,600 --> 01:09:08,600
And some people come in and say hi to us or whatever, but as far as fears of someone coming to break into our house, nah. So it's pretty much friendly stuff. Nah. Thank you very much there, Teddy and Dave and Zig. Thank you very much.

1440
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:18,600
And Dave, thank you very much for that as well. There's a funny little clip of him just saying nah there. It wasn't convincing.

1441
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:23,000
It wasn't convincing. But as far as fears, is someone coming to break into our house? Nah.

1442
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:28,140
So it's pretty- But people would, like you're giving your location away in your house and all that.

1443
01:09:28,140 --> 01:09:32,820
There could be fucking oddballs that wanna come and rap on the window or fucking- Pretty much friendly stuff.

1444
01:09:32,820 --> 01:09:39,860
You get emails and stuff and they're all pretty positive. In a country where they have guns and all that kind of stuff as well, I'd just be like fuck that shit man, you know?

1445
01:09:39,860 --> 01:09:47,640
Positive responses to what's going on. Pretty much, they're asking for help out of setup their cam. Wow, so it's the next wave of the future. Everybody's gonna have a webcam at home. Yes.

1446
01:09:47,640 --> 01:10:02,640
Well, I can't argue with that little sentiment there at the end, but where he is wrong, where they're wrong, is that I'm not gonna have a fucking livestream of everything in the gaff, you know?

1447
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:12,640
Wow, so they're all pretty positive responses to what's going on? Pretty much, they're asking for help out of setup their cam. Wow, so it's the next wave of the future. Everybody's gonna have a webcam at home. Yes.

1448
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,640
*Ding*

1449
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:26,640
Keiko the whale! Keiko the whale from the film 3D. I mean, Free Willy. And it was rubbish. I didn't like it as a child, thought it was rubbish.

1450
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,640
*Ding*

1451
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:50,640
Ha that's worse than the film I mean the film had moving pictures of the whale and then watch you log on to see fucking still images of it. I have it on good authority that whale was abused. I remember seeing pictures of it. It's the under underneath its fins. It was fucked.

1452
01:10:54,260 --> 01:11:13,940
Now Sean you're on staff at Stanford and I think you did your parents proud. You were doing like a research project as a student and now you're hired full time. We're talking about webcams and home cams and you've done something a little bit different. Basically a webcam that people can control by remote. What is the project you're involved with about?

1453
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:24,240
It's all about moving a camera and being here comes the hot stepper. It's Sean spelt with a W. Dave thank you very much Teddy and Dave thank you very much again for the tip.

1454
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:31,720
Being able to view a space remotely. So anybody can go online and control the cameras in your project. Right.

1455
01:11:32,260 --> 01:11:45,400
Peter Cech is after you. Anyone around the world can come online and being able to view a space remotely. So anybody can go online and control the cameras in your project. Right. Anyone around the world can come.

1456
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:51,460
They can pan the camera left and right and tilt it up and down and they can actually zoom in. Okay. On objects in the room.

1457
01:11:51,460 --> 01:12:09,340
So basically anybody is the cinematographer at this point. Look at this chain here. It's a chain gang scenario right here. And the collar has been popped. A button has been undone. Things down at Cybersmith are getting a little bit digital.

1458
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:17,740
Right. What do you have to show? What spaces are they looking at? I wonder if there's something going on between these fellas.

1459
01:12:20,060 --> 01:12:27,820
There's a double. It's a double earring scenario. And then I've noticed your man there has fucking popped the call there.

1460
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:34,660
Anyway. The cinematographer at this point. Right. What do you have to show? What spaces are they looking at?

1461
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:43,280
Currently it's a loft space. It's used by an engineering class at Stanford. Okay. And they have teams of students who are working on projects there.

1462
01:12:43,620 --> 01:12:45,080
Pop out his tomb box.

1463
01:12:46,100 --> 01:12:53,080
Need to be able to see what the local teams are doing. Okay. So it's a collaborative sort of an educational tool that people can use. Right.

1464
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:58,940
Where do you see this type of technology going in the future in terms of like applications beyond education?

1465
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:06,100
I can also see it in the business world anywhere where remote collaboration is a benefit as well as say sporting events.

1466
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:11,360
And I get a lot of requests. Hey that's a good idea. So you can watch a football game and pan the camera where you want it to.

1467
01:13:11,660 --> 01:13:11,800
Right.

1468
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:12,460
Things like that.

1469
01:13:13,180 --> 01:13:19,240
Look at this weird scenario. This weird angle. I mean we don't need to see a fucking cameraman.

1470
01:13:20,540 --> 01:13:22,200
And then what's going on.

1471
01:13:36,820 --> 01:13:38,580
You can see his belly there. Look.

1472
01:13:40,700 --> 01:13:43,040
It's opened up and it's shown a little bit of belly.

1473
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:53,320
You know look at someone in the crowd if you feel like it. Right. Instead of watching the game. Right. Just get another view.

1474
01:13:53,620 --> 01:14:03,000
Okay interesting. Now to create this site I think you actually had to create some technology. Some new things. It's not just your standard off the shelf webcam. What did you do?

1475
01:14:03,480 --> 01:14:08,860
Well what I did was I took an off the shelf pan and tilt mechanism. Which is this piece right here. The black piece here.

1476
01:14:08,860 --> 01:14:10,040
And you see just a standard equipment.

1477
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,040
Ha ha ha!

1478
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,040
*crying*

1479
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,040
Damn.

1480
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,040
*crying*

1481
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,040
*crying*

1482
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,040
*laughs*

1483
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,020
I don't know.

1484
01:14:24,020 --> 01:14:54,000
I don't know.

1485
01:14:54,000 --> 01:15:23,980
I don't know.

1486
01:15:23,980 --> 01:15:24,980
Right.

1487
01:15:24,980 --> 01:15:29,720
And what I did was I built some hardware and wrote some software in order to control that through the web.

1488
01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:31,540
Now, you've taken it a step further also.

1489
01:15:31,740 --> 01:15:37,340
You have a site I know where basically the camera is on you while you're at work.

1490
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,980
What does it feel like to be the subject of the viewers all the time?

1491
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:43,200
Well, for me, it's no big deal.

1492
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,220
It's a fucking phone going in the background.

1493
01:15:45,540 --> 01:15:49,160
Like to be the subject of the viewers all the time.

1494
01:15:49,380 --> 01:15:50,480
Well, for me, it's no big deal.

1495
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,900
I get an audio warning whenever someone gets on the camera so I know someone's there.

1496
01:15:53,980 --> 01:15:54,180
Oh, so what?

1497
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,180
A buzzer goes off or a sound or something?

1498
01:15:56,180 --> 01:15:56,360
Right.

1499
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,080
A little sound file plays and tells me someone's there.

1500
01:15:59,420 --> 01:16:01,320
And I'm used to it.

1501
01:16:01,460 --> 01:16:02,060
I don't care.

1502
01:16:02,300 --> 01:16:03,380
I'll usually make faces.

1503
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,140
What the fuck is this?

1504
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,700
Bonus control time.

1505
01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:12,240
Pan, tilt, Java chat.

1506
01:16:12,340 --> 01:16:13,640
There's a chat box as well.

1507
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,980
People, if someone's on the camera.

1508
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,180
Now, have you found that other people maybe aren't so comfortable with it?

1509
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:20,540
Other people can't stand it.

1510
01:16:20,620 --> 01:16:23,900
They'll turn the cameras around or do anything they can to get the camera off of them.

1511
01:16:23,900 --> 01:16:24,180
Really?

1512
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,240
So it's a matter of getting used to it.

1513
01:16:26,300 --> 01:16:26,480
Right.

1514
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,560
So you don't think this is something that will probably be standard in the workplace soon?

1515
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:31,780
No, I don't think so.

1516
01:16:32,460 --> 01:16:35,160
Well, we got this.

1517
01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:37,180
Underwhelming to say the least.

1518
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:38,280
The end of that bit, wasn't it?

1519
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,020
No, it's not going to be good.

1520
01:16:40,300 --> 01:16:41,640
It's not going to work.

1521
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,400
See some examples and meet some of these people who do the webcam stuff.

1522
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,140
I mean, we saw Chip and Christine and the couple you interviewed.

1523
01:16:49,020 --> 01:16:49,860
What do you think now?

1524
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,240
Does this make sense to you?

1525
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:52,600
I think it makes sense.

1526
01:16:52,700 --> 01:16:54,140
Not so much from doing it.

1527
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,340
I'm not excited to get behind.

1528
01:16:55,340 --> 01:16:56,660
You wouldn't put a webcam in your house.

1529
01:16:56,660 --> 01:16:57,160
No, I can't see nothing with you.

1530
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,640
He's fucking put his collar back together again.

1531
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,420
Something was going on in that last webcam scene.

1532
01:17:04,420 --> 01:17:05,820
You know why my room's too messy.

1533
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,180
Watching was actually pretty interesting.

1534
01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:09,680
What was it?

1535
01:17:09,740 --> 01:17:13,860
Well, you know, I'm a guy and I was something sort of exciting about being a voyeur.

1536
01:17:13,860 --> 01:17:14,500
Chip walking around in underwear.

1537
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:14,960
Exactly.

1538
01:17:15,220 --> 01:17:17,580
You know, it's something out of your ordinary everyday life.

1539
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,400
So I was kind of intrigued.

1540
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:20,720
And Jane, what would you think?

1541
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:21,260
It's a guy thing.

1542
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:22,260
It's a guy thing.

1543
01:17:22,260 --> 01:17:23,160
It's definitely a guy thing.

1544
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:23,380
You're probably right.

1545
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,080
So the whole thing is boring to you?

1546
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:26,760
I just think it's crazy.

1547
01:17:26,820 --> 01:17:29,160
You wouldn't put a camera in your kitchen or your bedroom?

1548
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:29,940
No, no, no, no.

1549
01:17:29,940 --> 01:17:31,320
And you don't care to watch other people's private lives?

1550
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:32,060
Not particularly.

1551
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:32,960
Show me a good movie.

1552
01:17:33,140 --> 01:17:34,060
Thank you very much.

1553
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:35,200
Twisted.

1554
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:36,080
Twisted.

1555
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:36,200
Twisted.

1556
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,680
Well, you'll have to make a brown mind about voyeurism on the web.

1557
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,140
That's it for this edition of the Internet Cafe.

1558
01:17:43,260 --> 01:17:44,080
Dave's Net Cafe.

1559
01:17:44,300 --> 01:17:45,500
Dave McGill, thank you very much.

1560
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,140
Can you say hi to Jessica Birmingham?

1561
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:49,720
How are we getting on Jessica Birmingham?

1562
01:17:50,460 --> 01:17:52,500
This is Shefay's Net Cafe.

1563
01:17:52,660 --> 01:17:54,600
Let's have a look at the outro, the titles.

1564
01:17:54,900 --> 01:17:58,880
If the intro was anything to go by, we should be in for a real treat here with this.

1565
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:04,500
Net Cafe is made possible by rondiamond.com, the oldies site on the Internet.

1566
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,420
We need to look up this Ron Diamond guy.

1567
01:18:07,540 --> 01:18:10,440
Something doesn't fucking sit right with this Ron Diamond guy.

1568
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:15,040
Music and memories from the 50s, 60s, and 70s.

1569
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,000
Not just another jukebox.

1570
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,440
Additional support comes from the law offices of Ivan Hoffman.

1571
01:18:21,900 --> 01:18:28,240
Lawyering with integrity for Internet law, copyright, trademark, and other intellectual property law.

1572
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,140
You can't barf the half, man.

1573
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,200
He'll fucking sue your ass.

1574
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,980
And by TechWeb for up-to-the-minute technology news.

1575
01:18:39,020 --> 01:18:42,180
To purchase a videotaped copy of today's program.

1576
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,020
As I said to you before, right?

1577
01:18:44,340 --> 01:18:46,620
And fucking Shefay's not fucking thick, man.

1578
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,160
He sells every episode he makes.

1579
01:18:48,420 --> 01:18:51,360
And he posts it off in a little baggie to you.

1580
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,260
For $20, you can buy that episode.

1581
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:55,780
What was he at?

1582
01:18:56,020 --> 01:18:56,540
Maybe...

1583
01:18:56,540 --> 01:19:01,200
And now we made these all, like, open source on the web archive or something.

1584
01:19:01,820 --> 01:19:06,200
But the fucking music for this is like Streets of Rage.

1585
01:19:06,260 --> 01:19:10,220
So I just think of the character animation of them.

1586
01:19:10,340 --> 01:19:11,660
Wait before you move.

1587
01:19:12,140 --> 01:19:25,020
To purchase a videotaped copy of today's program, call toll-free 1-888-310-7850.

1588
01:19:25,820 --> 01:19:28,300
Please specify the show number and the topic.

1589
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:37,920
What a fucking show, man.

1590
01:19:41,740 --> 01:20:11,720
What a fucking show, man.

1591
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:16,120
Wow.

1592
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:19,320
I'm not done.

1593
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:23,300
What the hell is this now?

1594
01:20:23,420 --> 01:20:25,280
How to build a business that creates impact.

1595
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:27,720
Welcome to the...

1596
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,960
With Clint Betts.

1597
01:20:33,260 --> 01:20:36,980
This isn't Computer Chronicles, but it's some random video they've recommended.

1598
01:20:37,140 --> 01:20:37,920
It could be rubbish.

1599
01:20:41,980 --> 01:20:43,760
The CEO.com show.

1600
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,440
Sorry there, it's too loud.

1601
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:46,500
It's mastered.

1602
01:20:46,980 --> 01:20:47,700
Too loud.

1603
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,000
It's actually mastered normally and good.

1604
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:54,480
It's just that the old episodes of Net Cafe are really fucking...

1605
01:20:55,540 --> 01:20:56,760
muffled for some reason.

1606
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:57,420
I don't know why.

1607
01:20:57,420 --> 01:20:57,440
I don't know why.

1608
01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:01,560
They've been digitized from tape.

1609
01:21:03,140 --> 01:21:04,920
So there's lots of...

1610
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:11,280
fucking Doppler effecting going on there or whatever the hell that is.

1611
01:21:14,220 --> 01:21:15,640
Clint Betts is after you.

1612
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,240
So maybe we'll dip into...

1613
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:20,240
fucking...

1614
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,740
Whatchamacallit now?

1615
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,640
A diary entry from...

1616
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,500
The book in Clint.

1617
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:30,100
What's his name now?

1618
01:21:30,220 --> 01:21:30,540
I've got...

1619
01:21:30,540 --> 01:21:30,800
Chip.

1620
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,600
But can anybody there just send me...

1621
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,640
Can somebody send me the link...

1622
01:21:38,220 --> 01:21:38,640
To...

1623
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,700
To Chip's diary there in the chat.

1624
01:21:42,100 --> 01:21:42,820
Constant throwing.

1625
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:43,300
How are you?

1626
01:21:43,380 --> 01:21:45,320
CR's video vault is class.

1627
01:21:45,820 --> 01:21:47,940
And I'm not disagreeing with that sentiment.

1628
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:49,340
It is class.

1629
01:21:49,340 --> 01:21:51,200
But the thing is...

1630
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,980
The channel repeatedly gets fucking done for...

1631
01:21:53,980 --> 01:21:56,160
For showing RT Eclipse now.

1632
01:21:56,260 --> 01:21:57,120
It never used to be the way.

1633
01:21:57,180 --> 01:21:58,060
But now it's the...

1634
01:21:58,060 --> 01:21:59,440
They're clamping down on it.

1635
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:01,040
Big time.

1636
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,040
So I will watch another...

1637
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:05,660
Net Cafe episode.

1638
01:22:06,180 --> 01:22:07,040
And I'll also...

1639
01:22:07,860 --> 01:22:08,940
Go into a...

1640
01:22:08,940 --> 01:22:10,460
Delve into the fucking...

1641
01:22:10,460 --> 01:22:11,620
Annals of time.

1642
01:22:11,820 --> 01:22:13,040
Via Chip...

1643
01:22:13,820 --> 01:22:15,020
Cochine's diary.

1644
01:22:15,180 --> 01:22:16,860
Whatever his fucking surname was.

1645
01:22:16,860 --> 01:22:21,320
Sent you one.

1646
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:22,960
Says Moon Pie in the donation link.

1647
01:22:22,980 --> 01:22:23,480
Earlier on.

1648
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:23,720
Okay.

1649
01:22:23,820 --> 01:22:24,380
Moon Pie.

1650
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:24,860
Moon Pie.

1651
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,020
Chip follow up for later.

1652
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:26,780
Nice one.

1653
01:22:28,260 --> 01:22:29,660
Very very kind of you there.

1654
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:30,480
Now.

1655
01:22:30,620 --> 01:22:31,520
Let's get this up.

1656
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:32,900
We've got a lovely...

1657
01:22:32,900 --> 01:22:33,660
Brain dump...

1658
01:22:34,580 --> 01:22:35,140
Scenario.

1659
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:35,960
It's Chip.

1660
01:22:36,980 --> 01:22:38,120
The Chipster.

1661
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:40,220
Hot Chip.

1662
01:22:40,500 --> 01:22:41,040
The band.

1663
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:43,960
I wonder now.

1664
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:45,340
If we have a fucking second.

1665
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,200
Let me just see this now.

1666
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:49,800
We've got two webcams there.

1667
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,100
That's not good for anyone.

1668
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:53,600
That is not gonna work.

1669
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,020
Let me hit me again.

1670
01:23:01,540 --> 01:23:04,560
Doot doot doot doot doot doot.

1671
01:23:05,220 --> 01:23:18,780
So in order to ground the fucking text...

1672
01:23:18,780 --> 01:23:21,560
In some kind of context...

1673
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,820
You first need to just quickly look at Chip again.

1674
01:23:24,220 --> 01:23:27,400
Sometimes I have a weird expression on my face...

1675
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,220
Or sometimes I'm not there.

1676
01:23:29,420 --> 01:23:30,600
It's more real.

1677
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,180
Now is this a 24-hour thing?

1678
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:33,960
I mean you have your Chip cam on the whole time...

1679
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,460
And we follow your life like the Jennys and the Annas and all that?

1680
01:23:36,700 --> 01:23:36,880
No.

1681
01:23:36,940 --> 01:23:38,220
I turn it on when I'm there.

1682
01:23:38,580 --> 01:23:41,020
And more when I'm present on my webpage.

1683
01:23:41,340 --> 01:23:41,440
Okay.

1684
01:23:41,820 --> 01:23:42,440
So when I'm...

1685
01:23:42,440 --> 01:23:45,020
So it's really tied to the chat aspect of your website, right?

1686
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:45,360
Sure.

1687
01:23:45,460 --> 01:23:47,160
Tied to the chat and to meeting people.

1688
01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:49,540
And offering a bit of myself.

1689
01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:53,080
And hopefully getting a bit back from the visitors on my site.

1690
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:54,280
What's the next step?

1691
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,140
I mean where do you see this live cam stuff going?

1692
01:23:56,140 --> 01:23:58,820
What would you like to do if you had more bandwidth for example?

1693
01:23:59,180 --> 01:24:10,420
What I'd like to do is create a place where more people with more cams and more communications methods can contribute and collaborate with each other to create something that's greater.

1694
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:12,060
Greater in what way?

1695
01:24:12,100 --> 01:24:13,920
I mean what's the experiment that's going on here?

1696
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:18,640
Just to bring people together to share ideas and be creative with each other.

1697
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:20,560
And just make more of a social experience?

1698
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:21,320
A real social experience?

1699
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:26,040
A social experience and see how people can create things with each other.

1700
01:24:26,340 --> 01:24:28,140
What's the psychology behind us all?

1701
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,380
You know the live cams, the voyeurism on the web.

1702
01:24:30,700 --> 01:24:35,300
Why do you think people care to watch what Chip is doing 7 o'clock on a Monday night?

1703
01:24:35,340 --> 01:24:35,940
I mean who cares?

1704
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:36,800
Why are they interested?

1705
01:24:36,980 --> 01:24:37,580
I think...

1706
01:24:37,580 --> 01:24:43,240
People really have the need to reach out to other people.

1707
01:24:43,980 --> 01:24:48,600
And in real life a lot of people might not have the mechanism or the social structure to do it.

1708
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:56,600
Now that the internet is so readily available that's a whole bunch of people who are already there and a mechanism for people to reach out and find other people.

1709
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,840
Is sex a big part of this whole live cam voyeurism thing?

1710
01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:03,980
I mean a lot of the sites have a sort of sexual connotation if not a blatant sexuality to them.

1711
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,860
I know you've mentioned people will log on and say take your clothes off, Chip.

1712
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:07,280
Sure.

1713
01:25:08,380 --> 01:25:08,640
Yeah.

1714
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:16,180
It gives someone with voyeuristic tendencies the opportunity to look into someone else's life without identifying themselves.

1715
01:25:16,180 --> 01:25:17,360
A lot of camera movements.

1716
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:21,640
Anyway, we've got the diary entry of Chip.

1717
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:23,440
Oh, where the fuck did I put it?

1718
01:25:23,480 --> 01:25:24,340
I had it there somewhere.

1719
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:35,420
Web Archive.

1720
01:25:35,420 --> 01:25:35,720
Okay.

1721
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:36,520
I put there.

1722
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:37,620
And then, sorry.

1723
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,600
I'm trying to do multiple fucking tasks here.

1724
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:41,480
And it's a bit tough.

1725
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,220
Now, Chip Archive.

1726
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:45,160
We have it here.

1727
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:46,080
Tobes.

1728
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:47,980
You did good, boss.

1729
01:25:48,260 --> 01:25:49,300
Thank you very much.

1730
01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:53,160
The full Netcafe playlist is there via Tobes' link.

1731
01:25:54,480 --> 01:25:55,480
Link in park.

1732
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:03,680
Now, this fucking webcam that I have isn't fucking activated.

1733
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,360
I want to move around the screen.

1734
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:13,140
Do you know where I had the other webcam and I got to move around the screen before?

1735
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:15,380
Let me just see.

1736
01:26:15,380 --> 01:26:16,260
Now, Properties.

1737
01:26:16,380 --> 01:26:17,200
Logitech.

1738
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:18,720
Webcam.

1739
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:26,420
Anyway.

1740
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,860
Sandy's eyes met mine and we locked into a riveted gaze.

1741
01:26:32,460 --> 01:26:33,960
The moment was uncanny.

1742
01:26:36,860 --> 01:26:42,180
Her eyes sparkled in such a way that I was overwhelmed with the feeling of both familiarity

1743
01:26:42,180 --> 01:26:46,300
and a welcoming embrace.

1744
01:26:46,300 --> 01:26:51,340
All at once I felt a fusion of emotions.

1745
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:54,200
Chip.

1746
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:55,500
Thank you very much there, Chip.

1747
01:26:55,500 --> 01:27:22,960
What kind of struggle is there?

1748
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,540
Like, is there a struggle for unity and you need to fucking ride?

1749
01:27:26,660 --> 01:27:27,680
Is that what he's saying there?

1750
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:33,280
She lightly sighed as a smile slipped onto her face.

1751
01:27:33,500 --> 01:27:36,080
Did it slip on from behind the head?

1752
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:37,200
Like...

1753
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:41,840
How does a smile slip on?

1754
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:58,520
She lightly sighed as a smile slipped onto her face and curled her ruby lips skyward.

1755
01:27:59,860 --> 01:28:08,080
My heart illuminated with an odd mix of laughter and a highly ignitable desire.

1756
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,600
The desire I have for you is fucking ignitable.

1757
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:15,140
I best keep my desire away from naked flame.

1758
01:28:15,140 --> 01:28:18,720
Otherwise, it'll go up like a fucking tinder keg.

1759
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:27,260
My spirit was buoyant.

1760
01:28:27,260 --> 01:28:29,880
could have matched the purity of that moment.

1761
01:28:30,340 --> 01:28:32,280
Thanks very much to the eternal struggle for unity.

1762
01:28:32,580 --> 01:28:35,320
And Dick, Pick, Mick and Chip, thank you very much.

1763
01:28:39,580 --> 01:28:41,320
Nothing else of this world

1764
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,780
could have matched the purity of that moment.

1765
01:28:44,780 --> 01:28:54,780
*TWISTED*

1766
01:28:54,780 --> 01:28:56,780
*TWISTED*

1767
01:28:56,780 --> 01:29:05,780
Quib, thank you very much. Your man must have needed some DESIRE lighters to ignite the fucking struggle for unity he was having.

1768
01:29:05,780 --> 01:29:09,780
I heard your man was having a struggle for unity uptown the last night.

1769
01:29:09,780 --> 01:29:13,780
Apparently the one he was with fucking curled her ruby lips Skyward.

1770
01:29:13,780 --> 01:29:15,780
*TWISTED*

1771
01:29:15,780 --> 01:29:19,780
She curled her fucking ruby lips Skyward so she did.

1772
01:29:19,780 --> 01:29:25,780
And that was only moments after the smile slid onto her face.

1773
01:29:25,780 --> 01:29:27,780
*TWISTED*

1774
01:29:27,780 --> 01:29:29,780
Any crack uptown? No.

1775
01:29:29,780 --> 01:29:35,780
It wasn't the honesty in her stare that made me fall in love with her at that moment.

1776
01:29:35,780 --> 01:29:40,780
It wasn't the comfort conveyed by the casual nature of her mannerisms.

1777
01:29:40,780 --> 01:29:42,780
*TWISTED*

1778
01:29:42,780 --> 01:29:44,780
*TWISTED*

1779
01:29:44,780 --> 01:29:46,780
*TWISTED*

1780
01:29:46,780 --> 01:29:48,780
*TWISTED*

1781
01:29:48,780 --> 01:29:50,780
*TWISTED*

1782
01:29:50,780 --> 01:29:52,780
*TWISTED*

1783
01:29:52,780 --> 01:30:04,100
faint spicy aroma nor the way the setting sun shined across the soft curve of her neckline

1784
01:30:04,100 --> 01:30:10,920
it was the way she said you remind me of me this is horrible stuff i need to change the camera

1785
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:17,080
because i want to have a moving camera oh i can you know i can't yeah sorry bear with me folks

1786
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:25,800
we're gonna get through this steph thank you very much and braindump.net thank you very much my fertile arch

1787
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:34,540
let's just enhance the camera here to to give this it's just desserts it's due diligence

1788
01:30:34,540 --> 01:30:44,400
uh crap there can we chroma key can we fucking color correct that take that down like that

1789
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:56,280
up like that maybe uh sorry there i just need to fucking

1790
01:30:56,280 --> 01:31:17,240
yeah that'll do

1791
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:29,620
it wasn't the fertile arch of her lips

1792
01:31:29,620 --> 01:31:41,160
of her hips sorry it wasn't the fertile arch of her hips the swell of her breasts her faint spicy aroma

1793
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:48,300
nor the way the setting sun shined or shawnee should have used the word sean for that

1794
01:31:48,300 --> 01:31:52,340
sean across the soft curve of her neckline

1795
01:31:52,340 --> 01:31:57,100
it was the way she said you remind me of me you could

1796
01:31:57,100 --> 01:32:04,320
sandy and i spent the entire night sipping chianti and telling each other's stories

1797
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:14,460
we shared our desires and our dreams our fears and our fantasies we dared each other to divulge yet more

1798
01:32:14,460 --> 01:32:21,960
the ease with which we were able to reveal our deepest most intimate secrets astounded us

1799
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:27,400
there was no precedent for allowing ourselves to be open with each other

1800
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:44,000
Strangers so vulnerable but we trusted the purity of the high we attained was inexpressible outside of the moment.

1801
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:51,500
Thanks very much there Yurti Ahernam. Brain-dub- Yurti Ahern is very very kind to you.

1802
01:32:52,500 --> 01:32:55,920
One sec. Get this fucking image up.

1803
01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:24,300
I can only describe the next 10 days as joyous agony. I had just spent one of the most intimate nights.

1804
01:33:24,300 --> 01:33:28,220
Oh wait a second. I've missed out a load of shit here. Sorry. I've missed out a load of stuff.

1805
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:39,860
Where the fuck am I going here? I've lost the fucking run of it.

1806
01:33:46,660 --> 01:33:59,960
Here we go. Sandy and I spent the entire night sipping Chianti and telling each other stories. We shared our desires and our dreams. Our fears and our fantasies.

1807
01:33:59,960 --> 01:34:22,080
Joyous agony thank you very much. We dared each other to divulge yet more. We dared each other to divulge yet more. The ease with which we were able to reveal our deepest most intimate secrets astounded us.

1808
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:41,180
There was no precedent for allowing ourselves to be so open with each other. Strangers so vulnerable. But we trusted. The purity of the high we attained was inexpressible outside of the moment.

1809
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:49,420
My head can be like a fucking bouncing ball on the lyrics of a karaoke. So you know where to read.

1810
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:59,720
We each took a risk and seemed to have hit the jackpot. Jackpot Dunleavy is it? Time would tell.

1811
01:35:01,480 --> 01:35:18,500
The night slipped away like the pages of a captivating novel. As our train rolled into Barcelona. The imminent knowledge that we were about to part ways emerged and ignited our scheming minds to plan our next rendezvous.

1812
01:35:19,260 --> 01:35:23,560
Or as it's known in French. French. Rendezvous.

1813
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:31,780
Sandy would be traveling for a few weeks with a group of fry-ends she was about to meet out in Barcelona.

1814
01:35:33,460 --> 01:35:38,880
I was heading north to spend a lazy week in Cadequez.

1815
01:35:42,460 --> 01:35:45,860
Meet me in 10 days. Listen to the shit talk here.

1816
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,780
Meet... Give my love to your father.

1817
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:53,320
Meet me in 10 days at the Café de Juren in Amsterdam.

1818
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:57,120
I was heading north to the Café de Juren in Amsterdam.

1819
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:57,800
At midnight.

1820
01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:58,080
At midnight.

1821
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,500
Sandy took my hand.

1822
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:03,380
Leaned towards me.

1823
01:36:04,060 --> 01:36:05,760
And lightly kissed my lips.

1824
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:07,800
She grabbed...

1825
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:09,940
Her backpack.

1826
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:12,360
And without looking back.

1827
01:36:13,180 --> 01:36:13,940
She left.

1828
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:20,500
I can only describe the next 10 days as joyous agony.

1829
01:36:21,660 --> 01:36:26,760
I had just spent one of the most intimate nights of my life with a woman.

1830
01:36:27,300 --> 01:36:33,180
Whose presence of mind and lightness of being intrigued me no end.

1831
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:35,360
And now she was gone.

1832
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:38,840
The questions ran like a river through my head.

1833
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:41,680
Would I ever see her again?

1834
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,900
Is it possible to fall in love at first sight?

1835
01:36:45,460 --> 01:36:52,720
In what way, if any, would this encounter manifest into something more?

1836
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:58,420
Am I willing to remain open to this level of...

1837
01:36:58,420 --> 01:36:59,320
Oh, fucking hell.

1838
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:00,600
I've missed that there.

1839
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:00,880
Oh.

1840
01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:15,320
Am I willing to remain open to this level of intimacy?

1841
01:37:15,740 --> 01:37:19,520
Even though I risk being hurt because of the inherent vulnerability?

1842
01:37:20,900 --> 01:37:24,420
Isn't it the uncertainty in how the future will present itself?

1843
01:37:25,060 --> 01:37:26,100
Actually what...

1844
01:37:26,100 --> 01:37:28,720
What drives me to explore and discover and grow?

1845
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,420
That last bit doesn't make sense.

1846
01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:30,700
But it's like...

1847
01:37:30,700 --> 01:37:31,700
Isn't it...

1848
01:37:32,220 --> 01:37:36,020
Isn't it the uncertainty in how the future will present itself?

1849
01:37:37,220 --> 01:37:39,380
Actually what drives me...

1850
01:37:39,380 --> 01:37:42,700
Isn't it the uncertainty in how the future will present itself?

1851
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,440
Actually what drives me to explore and discover and grow?

1852
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:47,160
Well, there you have it, folks.

1853
01:37:47,900 --> 01:37:48,860
Fucking...

1854
01:37:48,860 --> 01:37:50,380
Unbelievable stuff there.

1855
01:37:52,580 --> 01:37:55,260
Another winner...

1856
01:37:55,260 --> 01:37:56,260
From the realm...

1857
01:37:57,140 --> 01:37:58,060
Of none other.

1858
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:00,560
The man, the myth, the legend.

1859
01:38:01,420 --> 01:38:02,260
None other...

1860
01:38:03,260 --> 01:38:05,260
Than fucking Chip...

1861
01:38:06,480 --> 01:38:07,100
The Chul...

1862
01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:08,480
The Chulman Chiller.

1863
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,580
A crazy, crazy author.

1864
01:38:13,820 --> 01:38:15,680
And a fantastic constitution.

1865
01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:18,080
And an amazing bit of business.

1866
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:20,760
Have we any more...

1867
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:21,260
Um...

1868
01:38:21,260 --> 01:38:23,520
Stuff there.

1869
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:26,840
And is there any more clips from this guy that we...

1870
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:28,040
Or any more texts?

1871
01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:28,940
Because I enjoyed...

1872
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,160
I enjoyed reading that there.

1873
01:38:32,540 --> 01:38:35,500
Something kind of made me feel as though I'd read it before.

1874
01:38:35,620 --> 01:38:36,020
Was it...

1875
01:38:36,020 --> 01:38:38,400
Was that the same article we read the other night?

1876
01:38:42,380 --> 01:38:43,720
Or is that...

1877
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:44,380
It sounded...

1878
01:38:44,380 --> 01:38:45,880
You know, he was just saying...

1879
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:46,500
Oh, it was...

1880
01:38:46,500 --> 01:38:49,520
Was it a different girl he was talking about in the last fucking thing?

1881
01:38:50,260 --> 01:38:51,700
Tantric Chip.

1882
01:38:59,580 --> 01:39:00,940
Remember the backpack.

1883
01:39:01,480 --> 01:39:05,440
He's still writing more from whatever prison he's in.

1884
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:06,620
Says Owen.

1885
01:39:12,980 --> 01:39:14,420
Unbelievable stuff.

1886
01:39:14,500 --> 01:39:15,200
Joyous agony.

1887
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,780
Thank you very much.

1888
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:24,480
Does anyone want me to read another one of those?

1889
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:25,200
Or...

1890
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:30,580
I'm not sure if we read another one of those?

1891
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:31,640
Or start another episode?

1892
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,180
I think we start another episode.

1893
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:34,840
Or yeah, I'll read another one.

1894
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:35,180
Fuck.

1895
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:36,940
I enjoy reading them because it's just weird.

1896
01:39:38,940 --> 01:39:40,740
Let's just go to a random page.

1897
01:39:41,500 --> 01:39:42,080
But I mean...

1898
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,120
That was pre-selected by Moon Pie.

1899
01:39:44,260 --> 01:39:46,260
So maybe Moon Pie has done the research.

1900
01:39:48,460 --> 01:39:51,000
And has come up with the good stuff there.

1901
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:51,540
The goods.

1902
01:39:52,860 --> 01:39:54,560
Let's just move on to May here.

1903
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:56,520
Monday.

1904
01:39:58,180 --> 01:39:59,140
April 24th.

1905
01:40:00,580 --> 01:40:01,980
Back in the old neighbourhood.

1906
01:40:10,780 --> 01:40:11,900
Brooklyn Lukey.

1907
01:40:11,900 --> 01:40:13,740
Thank you very much.

1908
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:14,620
You did good, kid.

1909
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:16,500
Thank you very, very much.

1910
01:40:20,100 --> 01:40:21,400
I've got the wrong camera.

1911
01:40:21,480 --> 01:40:21,640
Sorry.

1912
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:23,500
I pointed the wrong camera at my face.

1913
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:29,260
Back in the old neighbourhood.

1914
01:40:29,860 --> 01:40:33,060
In November of 1998, I wrote a brain dump.

1915
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:38,700
After reading an article on the Chronicle ran about the street kids in the neighbourhood.

1916
01:40:39,140 --> 01:40:44,420
I discovered the article when a member of my email list I maintain posted an earl.

1917
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,140
And asked what the other list members thought.

1918
01:40:48,300 --> 01:40:54,140
I responded by saying how close to home the issue of homelessness in the height is for me.

1919
01:40:54,340 --> 01:40:57,400
I see these kids every day around the corner from my house.

1920
01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:02,100
A day or two later, I got an email back from the woman who posted about the article.

1921
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:06,080
It ends up she was the mother of the girl in the article.

1922
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:07,280
She-Ra.

1923
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:11,820
The email was emotional.

1924
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:15,580
She hadn't seen the daughter in quite a while.

1925
01:41:15,580 --> 01:41:23,360
And the last thing she expected in response to her post was a response from someone who sees her daughter every day.

1926
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:27,980
She explained her side of the story.

1927
01:41:28,300 --> 01:41:33,640
Given a perspective quite different from the way the Chronicle portrayed her daughter.

1928
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:34,960
It was touching.

1929
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:40,140
Within a week or two, I noticed that She-Ra was gone from Hyde Street.

1930
01:41:41,300 --> 01:41:44,620
Since then, I've wondered from time to time what happened to her.

1931
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:50,540
Last week, as I was walking to the store, She-Ra approached me.

1932
01:41:51,580 --> 01:41:52,680
Walked along with me.

1933
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:54,640
Stevie G, thank you very much.

1934
01:41:55,100 --> 01:41:56,780
And started telling me a joke.

1935
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:04,160
The punchline was as obvious as the solicitation for spare change that accompanied it.

1936
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:08,620
I gave her some change.

1937
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:10,580
And said, you're She-Ra.

1938
01:42:12,740 --> 01:42:14,820
Pain in the buffet, thank you very much.

1939
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:18,600
Surprised.

1940
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:20,940
She said, how do you know that?

1941
01:42:22,060 --> 01:42:23,720
I said, I have a story to tell you.

1942
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:26,580
And proceeded to tell her about the article.

1943
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:28,620
The email list.

1944
01:42:29,420 --> 01:42:31,000
And the letter from her mom.

1945
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:33,840
She said, that was you?

1946
01:42:34,940 --> 01:42:35,900
It ends up.

1947
01:42:36,740 --> 01:42:37,700
She left the height.

1948
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:39,760
And went to see her mother.

1949
01:42:40,460 --> 01:42:42,400
Who told her the same story.

1950
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:44,280
She-Ra.

1951
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:45,520
Thanks for the tip.

1952
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:48,960
Spent some time in Hawaii.

1953
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:51,500
Finishing high school.

1954
01:42:51,940 --> 01:42:54,480
And is now back in the city looking for a job.

1955
01:42:55,380 --> 01:42:56,600
She looked pretty clean.

1956
01:42:57,100 --> 01:42:59,840
I hope she doesn't fall back into her old habits.

1957
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:04,480
Either way.

1958
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:09,220
It was cool to make that connection.

1959
01:43:15,180 --> 01:43:15,960
What's this look?

1960
01:43:16,060 --> 01:43:17,040
Monday, April 10th.

1961
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:18,240
Divine Moments of Truth.

1962
01:43:18,380 --> 01:43:19,780
I've been spongled.

1963
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:23,060
Let's have a little look at this.

1964
01:43:23,060 --> 01:43:35,540
Twisted.

1965
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:36,400
Twisted.

1966
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:36,500
Twisted.

1967
01:43:36,500 --> 01:43:36,500
Twisted.

1968
01:43:36,500 --> 01:43:36,500
Twisted.

1969
01:43:46,020 --> 01:43:47,240
There's nothing here.

1970
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:47,920
I want.

1971
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:49,660
We need another.

1972
01:43:51,660 --> 01:43:52,740
We need another.

1973
01:43:53,460 --> 01:43:53,900
Scintillating.

1974
01:43:54,060 --> 01:43:55,020
Bit of literary.

1975
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:55,660
Fucking.

1976
01:43:56,940 --> 01:43:57,380
Fortitude.

1977
01:43:58,260 --> 01:43:59,960
And we're not getting it right here.

1978
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:01,500
These are just diary entries.

1979
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:02,320
We want another.

1980
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:02,920
Big.

1981
01:44:03,140 --> 01:44:03,480
Big.

1982
01:44:05,540 --> 01:44:05,940
Scenario.

1983
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:07,720
Let's have a look.

1984
01:44:07,820 --> 01:44:08,100
Mr.

1985
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:08,780
One evening.

1986
01:44:09,020 --> 01:44:09,220
Sir.

1987
01:44:09,380 --> 01:44:09,940
Hang on.

1988
01:44:10,060 --> 01:44:10,380
Friends.

1989
01:44:10,500 --> 01:44:11,440
City of Philadelphia.

1990
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:12,120
Travel back.

1991
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:13,000
Smuggling.

1992
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:13,400
Oh.

1993
01:44:13,460 --> 01:44:13,900
Here we go.

1994
01:44:14,300 --> 01:44:14,980
Here we go.

1995
01:44:14,980 --> 01:44:23,260
Wednesday.

1996
01:44:25,260 --> 01:44:26,660
March 22nd.

1997
01:44:26,660 --> 01:44:26,740
March 22nd.

1998
01:44:31,620 --> 01:44:33,120
On one particular evening.

1999
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:34,580
Circa 1968.

2000
01:44:34,820 --> 01:44:36,160
While hanging with my friends.

2001
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:37,320
In center city.

2002
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:38,240
Philadelphia.

2003
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:39,740
At the time.

2004
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:41,120
I was traveling back and forth.

2005
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:41,880
From Cali.

2006
01:44:42,440 --> 01:44:43,520
Smuggling grass.

2007
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:45,720
I'm proud to be one of the premier.

2008
01:44:46,460 --> 01:44:48,320
LSD 25 dealers.

2009
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:50,880
In the Philadelphia region.

2010
01:44:53,420 --> 01:44:54,540
When we decided.

2011
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:55,680
Thank you very much.

2012
01:44:56,020 --> 01:44:57,000
When we decided.

2013
01:44:58,420 --> 01:45:00,840
To drop some liquid sandals.

2014
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:02,340
LSD 25.

2015
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:05,960
That's right my friends.

2016
01:45:07,460 --> 01:45:09,160
Albert's original formula.

2017
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:09,820
Made by.

2018
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:10,780
The famous.

2019
01:45:10,980 --> 01:45:11,820
Swiss labs.

2020
01:45:13,860 --> 01:45:14,940
My friend.

2021
01:45:15,060 --> 01:45:15,800
Clyde.

2022
01:45:16,460 --> 01:45:17,400
Who eventually.

2023
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:18,760
Dimed me out.

2024
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:19,800
To the feds.

2025
01:45:19,980 --> 01:45:20,960
And set me up.

2026
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:22,120
In San Fran.

2027
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:24,560
Where I narrowly.

2028
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:25,200
Slipped away.

2029
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:26,400
From being busted.

2030
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:28,260
With 200 kilos.

2031
01:45:28,480 --> 01:45:29,320
Of Mexican.

2032
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:31,660
But that's a very long.

2033
01:45:31,660 --> 01:45:32,880
Story in itself.

2034
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:35,680
Lived with his parents.

2035
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:37,320
Conveniently.

2036
01:45:37,380 --> 01:45:37,760
Enough.

2037
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:39,660
Clyde's father.

2038
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:41,160
Was a psychiatrist.

2039
01:45:41,940 --> 01:45:42,820
Who had routinely.

2040
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:44,040
Treated his patients.

2041
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:45,040
With the fabulous.

2042
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:46,060
Liquid.

2043
01:45:51,900 --> 01:45:53,100
One afternoon.

2044
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:54,360
Clyde and I.

2045
01:45:54,480 --> 01:45:56,020
Broke into his father's office.

2046
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:57,600
And stole three vials.

2047
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:58,660
Of the wonder drug.

2048
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:01,100
And decided to throw a party.

2049
01:46:01,340 --> 01:46:01,980
With one of them.

2050
01:46:07,300 --> 01:46:10,680
I was living with Chuck P.

2051
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:12,120
On Naudine Street.

2052
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:12,700
In Philly.

2053
01:46:14,260 --> 01:46:15,540
And we fucking had a.

2054
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:17,140
We had recently been acquitted.

2055
01:46:17,140 --> 01:46:18,300
From a drug bust.

2056
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:19,660
At our house.

2057
01:46:21,660 --> 01:46:22,480
The cops found.

2058
01:46:22,480 --> 01:46:24,180
The cops found 1,000 hits of LSD.

2059
01:46:24,180 --> 01:46:25,500
In a trash can.

2060
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:27,480
Jelly Pelt.

2061
01:46:27,540 --> 01:46:28,320
Thank you very much.

2062
01:46:28,480 --> 01:46:29,720
And cross eyed and twisted.

2063
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:30,580
Thank you very much.

2064
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:36,180
The cops found 1,000 hits of LSD.

2065
01:46:36,180 --> 01:46:37,560
In a trash can.

2066
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,000
Outside our back door.

2067
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:42,120
But because the courtyard.

2068
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,520
Was shared by five other houses.

2069
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:46,400
They couldn't pin it on us.

2070
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:49,560
It was also great.

2071
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:51,120
Because when we went to court.

2072
01:46:51,420 --> 01:46:51,900
We were.

2073
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:54,100
We covered our waist length hair.

2074
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:56,740
With short hair wigs.

2075
01:46:57,220 --> 01:46:58,440
And after being acquitted.

2076
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:00,080
And walking out of court.

2077
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:01,920
We pulled off the wigs.

2078
01:47:02,440 --> 01:47:04,860
And let our freak flags fly.

2079
01:47:07,420 --> 01:47:09,760
And we were ready for a group excursion.

2080
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:11,800
Through the doorways in the mind.

2081
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:22,220
At the time.

2082
01:47:22,700 --> 01:47:24,460
Some very good friends of ours.

2083
01:47:24,580 --> 01:47:25,760
Lived across the street.

2084
01:47:25,860 --> 01:47:26,380
In a house.

2085
01:47:27,980 --> 01:47:29,400
You hammered your mother.

2086
01:47:29,540 --> 01:47:30,360
Thank you very much.

2087
01:47:30,420 --> 01:47:31,300
You hammered your mother.

2088
01:47:31,900 --> 01:47:32,560
At the time.

2089
01:47:32,660 --> 01:47:34,080
Some very good friends of ours.

2090
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:35,240
Lived across the street.

2091
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:35,980
In a house.

2092
01:47:36,100 --> 01:47:37,460
With a huge garage.

2093
01:47:37,940 --> 01:47:40,000
And had a very popular band.

2094
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:40,780
At the time.

2095
01:47:41,420 --> 01:47:41,960
Elizabeth.

2096
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,960
They practiced in their garage.

2097
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:47,740
Hence the original.

2098
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:49,300
Garage band era.

2099
01:47:49,500 --> 01:47:50,640
Garage band era.

2100
01:47:51,420 --> 01:47:53,100
Which was decked out.

2101
01:47:53,220 --> 01:47:54,980
In total psychedelia.

2102
01:47:55,440 --> 01:47:55,960
Including.

2103
01:47:56,480 --> 01:47:57,920
But not limited to.

2104
01:47:58,440 --> 01:47:59,500
Black lights.

2105
01:48:00,220 --> 01:48:01,560
And all the paraphernalia.

2106
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:02,420
That goes with it.

2107
01:48:02,420 --> 01:48:04,440
A huge sound system.

2108
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:06,440
Many sofas and chairs.

2109
01:48:07,180 --> 01:48:08,620
And beds and carpets.

2110
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:09,620
And pillows.

2111
01:48:13,020 --> 01:48:14,960
They came over to see.

2112
01:48:15,660 --> 01:48:16,560
What was up.

2113
01:48:17,940 --> 01:48:19,480
And we all decided.

2114
01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:21,300
As was the norm.

2115
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:23,220
At least a couple of.

2116
01:48:23,620 --> 01:48:24,740
Times at a week.

2117
01:48:25,180 --> 01:48:26,500
To drop together.

2118
01:48:28,940 --> 01:48:30,340
While Clyde and I.

2119
01:48:30,340 --> 01:48:31,940
And I did a magical ceremony.

2120
01:48:31,940 --> 01:48:33,020
And produced.

2121
01:48:33,020 --> 01:48:35,780
A vial of the liquid.

2122
01:48:35,780 --> 01:48:37,060
Dream potion.

2123
01:48:37,780 --> 01:48:39,220
We all decided.

2124
01:48:39,220 --> 01:48:40,900
To go over to the garage.

2125
01:48:40,900 --> 01:48:42,120
And make a potion.

2126
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:43,660
Of wine slash liquid.

2127
01:48:43,900 --> 01:48:44,360
Magic.

2128
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:46,680
We did.

2129
01:48:47,140 --> 01:48:48,620
And within 20 minutes.

2130
01:48:49,020 --> 01:48:50,640
One of the first raves.

2131
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:51,900
Of the 20th century.

2132
01:48:51,900 --> 01:48:52,460
Began.

2133
01:48:53,100 --> 01:48:53,860
As always.

2134
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:55,520
Group activities.

2135
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:56,040
Including.

2136
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:56,720
Dancing.

2137
01:48:57,180 --> 01:48:57,820
Twirling.

2138
01:48:58,240 --> 01:48:58,760
Trancing.

2139
01:48:59,400 --> 01:48:59,840
Group.

2140
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:01,720
And individual interaction.

2141
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:02,760
Was at its peak.

2142
01:49:03,580 --> 01:49:04,140
Literally.

2143
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:05,740
For many hours.

2144
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:07,380
And as the sun came up.

2145
01:49:07,860 --> 01:49:08,880
All we could do.

2146
01:49:08,980 --> 01:49:10,440
Was intertwine.

2147
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:12,220
To the psychedelic bliss.

2148
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:14,040
That was once again.

2149
01:49:14,100 --> 01:49:15,440
Availed to us.

2150
01:49:15,740 --> 01:49:18,000
By the illustrious substance.

2151
01:49:19,020 --> 01:49:20,460
That had guided us.

2152
01:49:21,740 --> 01:49:22,200
All.

2153
01:49:22,540 --> 01:49:24,400
To so many wonderful places.

2154
01:49:28,100 --> 01:49:29,340
I am tired.

2155
01:49:30,180 --> 01:49:32,040
And I can't write anymore.

2156
01:49:32,940 --> 01:49:35,060
But I think I got my point across.

2157
01:49:35,740 --> 01:49:36,700
What do you think?

2158
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:39,160
Peace.

2159
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:41,520
And lots of love.

2160
01:49:44,220 --> 01:49:44,920
Mr. N.

2161
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:47,020
Is Chip your real name by the way?

2162
01:49:47,060 --> 01:49:48,320
Or is that a persona for the website?

2163
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:48,540
No.

2164
01:49:48,620 --> 01:49:49,500
Now it's my real name.

2165
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:50,560
Take your clothes off Chip.

2166
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:51,300
You don't.

2167
01:49:51,420 --> 01:49:51,700
You know.

2168
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:53,300
Take off my clothes on request.

2169
01:49:53,420 --> 01:49:55,060
Because it's not a service I'm providing.

2170
01:49:55,180 --> 01:49:55,360
Right.

2171
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:56,420
I could tell.

2172
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:58,520
I've been told differently Chip.

2173
01:49:59,140 --> 01:50:00,480
I've been told differently.

2174
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,080
I read the fucking diary entry there.

2175
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:03,720
Where you were doing.

2176
01:50:03,820 --> 01:50:06,140
You were doing a bit of intertwining were you?

2177
01:50:06,440 --> 01:50:08,240
On the fucking magic liquid was it?

2178
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:13,080
It's on the way back machine buddy.

2179
01:50:13,700 --> 01:50:15,860
It's on the fucking way back machine.

2180
01:50:16,860 --> 01:50:18,780
We're going way back baby.

2181
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:21,080
Mike Hogan's bananas.

2182
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:21,960
Thank you very much.

2183
01:50:22,100 --> 01:50:24,320
Joe Kenny is a YouTube channel you must explore.

2184
01:50:24,440 --> 01:50:26,160
Thank you very much for the tip.

2185
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:27,680
Fuck me man.

2186
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:28,420
That was a trip.

2187
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:29,380
And a half.

2188
01:50:32,380 --> 01:50:32,740
Woof.

2189
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:37,920
It's a made up name.

2190
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:39,360
What did you think of that there chat?

2191
01:50:39,440 --> 01:50:40,500
I wasn't looking at the chat.

2192
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:42,180
Because I was reading it for so long.

2193
01:50:42,300 --> 01:50:44,240
What were your thoughts?

2194
01:50:44,440 --> 01:50:46,000
What were your thoughts and feelings?

2195
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:46,580
Was there any?

2196
01:50:47,260 --> 01:50:48,380
What's your take on it?

2197
01:50:52,380 --> 01:50:53,620
What's your take on that?

2198
01:50:53,900 --> 01:50:54,900
A wild ride.

2199
01:50:56,660 --> 01:50:59,160
I travelled all the way from Limerick to hear the story.

2200
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:00,080
Mine doorways.

2201
01:51:01,860 --> 01:51:07,800
I think Mr. N is a pseudonym of himself.

2202
01:51:08,140 --> 01:51:11,460
He's not writing a fucking thing there from someone else.

2203
01:51:17,460 --> 01:51:18,540
For all we know.

2204
01:51:18,620 --> 01:51:21,520
Mr. N was the name he fucking put on himself when.

2205
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:23,340
Look.

2206
01:51:23,860 --> 01:51:25,840
His name isn't even fucking Chip.

2207
01:51:25,900 --> 01:51:26,980
It was something else like.

2208
01:51:41,700 --> 01:51:42,360
Don't lie.

2209
01:51:42,420 --> 01:51:43,500
Mr. N is relatable.

2210
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:47,080
Oh my god.

2211
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:48,920
Google Fox News live stream.

2212
01:51:49,020 --> 01:51:49,540
Why Barry?

2213
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:51,240
What's going on in Fox?

2214
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:54,960
Tucker Carlson is it?

2215
01:51:57,700 --> 01:51:58,720
I'm going to get off.

2216
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:01,720
Because it's too late to go on another fucking cryogenic.

2217
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:04,260
Dream chamber.

2218
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:05,240
Chaos chamber.

2219
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:07,480
Delvation into anything more.

2220
01:52:09,700 --> 01:52:11,020
Maybe I'll do one more.

2221
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:13,480
We'll look for one more diary entry.

2222
01:52:13,580 --> 01:52:14,580
But how the hell.

2223
01:52:17,020 --> 01:52:21,520
how the hell can you beat that?

2224
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:26,280
yeah

2225
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:32,180
oh maybe just a little bit of net cafe

2226
01:52:32,180 --> 01:52:33,680
15 minutes of net cafe

2227
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:34,180
fuck

2228
01:52:34,180 --> 01:52:54,060
I believe we had another recommendation there

2229
01:52:54,060 --> 01:52:57,980
for a net cafe episode

2230
01:52:57,980 --> 01:53:05,480
the thing is

2231
01:53:05,480 --> 01:53:08,040
and Red FM there is saying sex online

2232
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:09,360
but the thing is

2233
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,080
and conspiracy theories as well in Mumbai

2234
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:13,020
they are the fucking best

2235
01:53:13,020 --> 01:53:15,820
they sound like they're going to be amazing

2236
01:53:15,820 --> 01:53:17,180
so we'll just have a little look

2237
01:53:17,180 --> 01:53:19,700
for the playlist and see what we can get there

2238
01:53:19,700 --> 01:53:22,900
net cafe playlist

2239
01:53:22,900 --> 01:53:40,560
I think it actually was given

2240
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:41,860
let me have a look there

2241
01:53:41,860 --> 01:53:42,980
it was

2242
01:53:42,980 --> 01:53:44,880
is Chip your real name by the way

2243
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:45,900
or is that a persona for the website?

2244
01:53:45,900 --> 01:53:47,320
Joe Katie thank you very much

2245
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:48,440
take your clothes off Chip

2246
01:53:48,440 --> 01:53:49,580
I don't you know

2247
01:53:49,580 --> 01:53:51,160
take off my clothes on request

2248
01:53:51,160 --> 01:54:00,520
because it's not a service I'm providing right thanks a lot to it sure thing uh uh uh uh uh uh

2249
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,040
where is it where is it where is it

2250
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:13,720
there's cafe oh hell i'm i am oh yeah here we are nice nice

2251
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:34,840
pop up the toolbox pop up toolbox pop up the toolbox all right politics hackers voyeurism cyber

2252
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:44,760
writing startups grim reaper websites the fuck's that ufos conspiracy theories online literature space

2253
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:52,920
science humor on the web web startups movies online net games humor oh yeah we're just seeing the same

2254
01:54:52,920 --> 01:55:00,680
thing the war on the web virtual doctors ufos we're getting a lot for ufos so we'll do that so we'll look

2255
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:16,840
here now oh wow it's a real fucking mind melter isn't it

2256
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:31,640
this week at the internet cafe et on your pc is there intelligent life on the net ufos aliens id4 and

2257
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:38,840
bugs on mars the museum of jurassic technology who is this man's barber plus free software four

2258
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:45,240
megabytes of cyber blast cool stuff if you've got a tv modem are we alone the answer tonight at the

2259
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:52,760
internet cafe the internet cafe is made possible in part by intel one idea always leads to another now

2260
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:59,240
there are connected cd-roms that link rich multimedia with related information on the internet it's not cool enough

2261
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:05,720
it says a schindler net cafe audit stew demon not cool enough doesn't look like he made the cut anyway

2262
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:12,680
i haven't seen him in any information on the internet not cool enough it's the intel pentium processor

2263
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:20,360
and he seemed like he was a friend look at the c-shirt that stew's wearing take me to your dealer hi and

2264
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:25,000
welcome to the internet cafe i'm stewart chaffee and these are my friends andrew and jane and we're here in

2265
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:31,080
a cyber cafe called the coffee he's got new presenters with him so jane withers unless that's

2266
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:35,480
jane withers from before is it hey i'm stewart chaffee and these are my friends andrew and

2267
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:42,760
she changed her hair jane and we're here in a cyber cafe called the coffee net in downtown san francisco and

2268
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:47,960
i think we're gonna have a lot of fun tonight because we're talking i think we're gonna have a lot of fun

2269
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:55,960
tonight guys we're in a downtown san francisco coffee bar we're gonna have a lot of fun tonight and it's

2270
01:56:55,960 --> 01:57:04,360
it's so he's so trendy looking and then uh his friend paul schindler as shrug shining there is uh posited

2271
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:11,080
the theory that he might not have been cool enough to have kept him on let's just have a little look there at uh chip

2272
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:24,920
he might not have been cool enough that was himself think about websites that have to do with space

2273
01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:30,680
exploration the search for extraterrestrials ufos and aliens and all that stuff and there's a there's

2274
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:34,040
obviously a lot of people interested in this stuff matter of fact there's one stat i want to mention to

2275
01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:40,200
you if you categorize websites by type the second most popular type of website has to do with aliens and

2276
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:44,200
ufos and all that kind of stuff wow i'm really excited to this show because we're going to talk

2277
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:45,960
about some of the hype that's been surrounding you

2278
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:59,320
ufos in the media lately there was the mars uh sighting where there was i guess uh worms that were

2279
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:02,520
found that may have actually look at these they've got little cakes and everything

2280
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:11,000
who got you did you bring that shirt in jerkin or did someone say we wear that stew

2281
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:21,320
okay all right i was wearing alien okay not too bad what else from mars quickly uh there's been recent

2282
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:26,440
sightings of galaxies that have very similar attributes to our planet and there may be life on

2283
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:31,880
there and plus the biggest movie of the summer was independence day you've got tv shows like third rock from

2284
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:38,200
the sun and the third cock from the boom millennium coming out now so there's just very much very

2285
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:41,880
it's gonna be really neat you know one of the things that was really exciting and getting prepared for

2286
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:47,000
the show tonight was looking at some of the websites specifically the abductees anonymous website that's

2287
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:51,320
that support group for people who've been abducted by now right exactly and you know what's really

2288
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:55,320
interesting is walking reading through it i mean first of all it's really fascinating for me to understand

2289
01:58:55,320 --> 01:59:00,120
what it's all about but also the whole concept of using the internet for support groups the ability

2290
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:04,680
to be able to communicate with people in privacy you know without you know people going face to face

2291
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:09,160
and opening up but really really telling their stories and sharing experiences really phenomenal well we're

2292
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:13,880
going to check out a lot of very interesting websites that have to do with roswell and area 51 and all

2293
01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:18,600
this kind of interesting stuff and meet several people who hang out at these websites and then tell us quite a bit about it

2294
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:22,600
What are you guys doing here?

2295
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:24,600
I'm trying to do a sidewineer.

2296
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:26,600
What are you guys doing here?

2297
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:28,600
I'm not this particular image.

2298
01:59:28,600 --> 01:59:30,600
I'm doing that with an ironing...

2299
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:32,600
What are you guys doing here?

2300
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:34,600
I'm trying to do a sidewineer.

2301
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:36,600
They were talking away to each other.

2302
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:40,600
Check out this leather clad fucking badass.

2303
01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:46,600
Alright, we got a couple of brewskis.

2304
01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:48,600
Alright, what else?

2305
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:52,600
And it's a white man with dreadlocks.

2306
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:56,600
There we go. Tied up in a fucking...

2307
01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:00,600
A real tight knot at the back.

2308
02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:02,600
And there at the back is...

2309
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:04,600
Steve Brule.

2310
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:06,600
Or fucking...

2311
02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:08,600
Phil Spector.

2312
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:10,600
We haven't found out yet, but...

2313
02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:12,600
Boy oh boy.

2314
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:16,600
Do I hope we have a segment with that cat.

2315
02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:18,600
Down the back.

2316
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:24,600
What's funny about this is the little sting between the...

2317
02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:26,600
Thanks very much, Chipping Balls.

2318
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:28,600
The little sting here.

2319
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:30,600
They haven't put the music on.

2320
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:32,600
It's just quiet.

2321
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:34,600
And the...

2322
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:36,600
The solemnity of it is...

2323
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:36,600
Kind of...

2324
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:38,600
It just adds to the weirdness of the situation.

2325
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:40,600
What are you guys doing?

2326
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:44,600
People who hang out at these websites are going to tell us quite a bit about it.

2327
02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:46,600
What are you guys doing here?

2328
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:50,600
Trying to decide whether or not this particular image is a fake or not.

2329
02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:52,600
It looks like...

2330
02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:54,600
It's too hard to figure out.

2331
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:56,600
He's been up all night, man.

2332
02:00:56,600 --> 02:00:58,600
California and not get a fucking tan like.

2333
02:00:58,600 --> 02:01:00,600
Yeah, it looks pretty much just like a pretty easy double exposure.

2334
02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:04,600
But we're trying to figure out what the actual abstract image here would be.

2335
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:06,600
Uh-huh.

2336
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:07,600
It should be anything.

2337
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:13,600
I think that's really the key to a lot of the UFO images is make them as abstract as possible and you can say it's anything.

2338
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:15,600
Show us another one though.

2339
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:17,600
I mean some of these are like known fakes, right Josh?

2340
02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:18,600
Sure.

2341
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:20,600
This is where Netcafe...

2342
02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:29,600
It didn't continue the production quality of Computer Chronicles because the sound is kind of like...

2343
02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:32,600
It's recorded from a distance on a boom mic.

2344
02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:34,600
And it's just kind of hanging.

2345
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:35,600
Everything's hanging.

2346
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:37,600
You know, and there's no snappiness.

2347
02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:42,600
Fish, you should phase out to wear kind of cool clothes.

2348
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:44,600
They've told him to wear these clothes like...

2349
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:46,600
And it's not...

2350
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:48,600
It's kind of weird like it's a forced scenario.

2351
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:51,600
It's a real...

2352
02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:52,600
How do you do fellow kids?

2353
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:56,600
This is a great guy who drew diagrams of it.

2354
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:57,600
Yeah.

2355
02:01:57,600 --> 02:02:00,600
It's like you can see this was done back in the 50s so...

2356
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:01,600
But show us the photo he took.

2357
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:02,600
Yeah.

2358
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:06,600
And that looks like some sort of lampshade, hubcap, what is it?

2359
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:10,600
Yeah, it's a hubcap and he's taken ping pong balls and glued them to the underside.

2360
02:02:10,600 --> 02:02:11,600
So the little balls there are ping pong?

2361
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:14,600
Yeah, they're ping... halves of ping pong balls.

2362
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:19,600
And he's taken some sort of coffee can lid or something and put it on...

2363
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:20,600
Or upper half of a coffee can and put it on.

2364
02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:25,600
Alright, so this is a site that's just a collection of all the UFO photos that I'm around over the years and so on.

2365
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:26,600
Yes.

2366
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:30,600
It's basically a smorgasbord of images, but anybody can contribute an image to it.

2367
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:32,600
...and he's taken the underside there.

2368
02:02:32,600 --> 02:02:34,600
So the little balls there are ping pong?

2369
02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:35,600
Yeah, a hubcap and he's...

2370
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:38,600
And that looks like some sort of lampshade, hubcap, what is it?

2371
02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:40,600
Yeah, it's a hubcap and he's...

2372
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:42,600
Michael shtoned!

2373
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:45,600
...and he's taken ping pong balls and glued them to the underside there.

2374
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:47,600
So the little balls...

2375
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:48,600
The coke...

2376
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:49,600
The coke can...

2377
02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:54,600
The little grip on the coke can is a nice...

2378
02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:58,600
Little scenario there as well.

2379
02:02:58,600 --> 02:02:59,600
Little balls there...

2380
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:00,600
You're not a killer.

2381
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:01,600
Let me have a look here and I will say about this.

2382
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:02,600
Game boy!

2383
02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:03,600
Game boy!

2384
02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:04,600
You're not a killer.

2385
02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:05,600
No, I'm not.

2386
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:05,600
They're a ping pong?

2387
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:06,600
Yeah, they're ping...

2388
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:07,600
...haves of ping pong balls.

2389
02:03:07,600 --> 02:03:10,600
And he's taken some sort of coffee can lid or something and put it on...

2390
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:15,000
Game Boy. Game Boy.

2391
02:03:15,480 --> 02:03:16,640
You're not a killer. No, I'm not.

2392
02:03:18,760 --> 02:03:21,460
They're ping pong. Yeah, they're ping, has the ping pong balls.

2393
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:26,820
And he's taken some sort of coffee can lid or something and put it on, or upper half of a coffee can and put it on.

2394
02:03:26,820 --> 02:03:31,500
So this is a site that's just a collection of all the UFO photos that have been around over the years and so on.

2395
02:03:31,540 --> 02:03:31,820
Yes.

2396
02:03:32,520 --> 02:03:35,460
It's basically a smorgasbord of images that anybody can...

2397
02:03:35,460 --> 02:03:40,140
Skeptic, skeptic Shafi, thank you very much.

2398
02:03:40,140 --> 02:03:45,500
What are you guys... Your comment is, what are you guys doing? Anything sexual?

2399
02:03:46,140 --> 02:03:50,460
...tribute an image to it, and they try to...

2400
02:03:50,460 --> 02:03:53,100
Click on that one right there. Yeah, the Belgian one.

2401
02:03:53,100 --> 02:03:54,340
Oh, that's... Yeah, that's...

2402
02:03:54,340 --> 02:04:00,280
They try to bring all types of images, both fakes and real ones, because really it's hard to...

2403
02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:03,680
The ones that are even at this point real, it's really just not proven that they're fake.

2404
02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:04,980
Yeah, real means you haven't proven it's a fake.

2405
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:05,400
Exactly.

2406
02:04:05,580 --> 02:04:10,020
This is the UFO stuff. We talked earlier at the beginning of the program about this abductees anonymous thing.

2407
02:04:10,100 --> 02:04:12,800
There's really an interesting site where people who claim to have been...

2408
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:16,220
Why they put his name on now, like, it's fucking ten minutes into it.

2409
02:04:16,660 --> 02:04:19,820
Abducted by aliens have, like, a support group where they share their experiences.

2410
02:04:19,820 --> 02:04:21,140
What do you think about that stuff?

2411
02:04:21,540 --> 02:04:26,440
I think the abductee phenomenon is a little bit too widespread to be real.

2412
02:04:26,660 --> 02:04:30,800
I think that if aliens were abducting people, they'd probably be more discreet about it.

2413
02:04:31,100 --> 02:04:31,800
And there's just...

2414
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:32,400
Well...

2415
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:38,480
The other thing is, like, on the internet, well, I think that he's right in a sense that there's way too many.

2416
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:44,800
But on the other hand, a forum like this is needed for people who actually might have actually had...

2417
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:47,280
Look at that fucking ring. It's huge.

2418
02:04:49,800 --> 02:05:06,020
The other thing is, like, a forum like this is needed for people who actually might have actually had an experience like that.

2419
02:05:06,020 --> 02:05:07,780
I mean, if you believe it, you need support.

2420
02:05:07,900 --> 02:05:09,460
But why does it never happen to anybody reputable?

2421
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:11,820
Why does it always happen to people driving pickup trucks?

2422
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:13,240
Well, that's why I live in the city.

2423
02:05:13,780 --> 02:05:15,440
Because it never happens in the city.

2424
02:05:15,820 --> 02:05:16,640
This could be like...

2425
02:05:16,640 --> 02:05:19,120
This is like a sitcom and fucking Shafay's loving it.

2426
02:05:19,900 --> 02:05:20,740
It's like a...

2427
02:05:20,740 --> 02:05:22,880
It could be straight out of Seinfeld, this.

2428
02:05:23,740 --> 02:05:24,740
Driving pickup trucks.

2429
02:05:24,820 --> 02:05:25,680
Leave it, you need...

2430
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:26,140
Great...

2431
02:05:26,140 --> 02:05:28,780
Just great conversational stuff.

2432
02:05:28,900 --> 02:05:29,220
Supporting.

2433
02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:30,820
But why does it never happen to anybody reputable?

2434
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:33,160
Why does it always happen to people driving pickup trucks?

2435
02:05:33,380 --> 02:05:34,600
Well, that's why I live in the city.

2436
02:05:35,140 --> 02:05:36,800
Because it never happens in the city.

2437
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:39,040
But, yeah, it's...

2438
02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:42,020
Basically, I think that it's something that's just...

2439
02:05:42,020 --> 02:05:44,400
They're just saying it's country lunatics, is it?

2440
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:45,700
And, uh...

2441
02:05:45,700 --> 02:05:47,120
Sorry, Steve Brule again.

2442
02:05:47,300 --> 02:05:47,740
Is it...

2443
02:05:47,740 --> 02:05:49,240
Brule's rules at the background.

2444
02:05:49,780 --> 02:05:50,660
But, yeah, it's...

2445
02:05:51,820 --> 02:05:53,720
It's the mad scientist.

2446
02:05:54,740 --> 02:05:55,420
The back.

2447
02:05:56,060 --> 02:05:57,660
This guy has to be in it.

2448
02:05:58,260 --> 02:06:01,020
If he's not in it, it'll be an absolute fucking shame.

2449
02:06:03,500 --> 02:06:04,860
Shafay, thank you very much.

2450
02:06:05,940 --> 02:06:10,100
Basically, I think that it's something that's just starting to happen to the human culture.

2451
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:12,120
That they're starting to contact aliens.

2452
02:06:12,380 --> 02:06:15,340
And it's a very gradual process that will happen over many generations.

2453
02:06:15,880 --> 02:06:19,600
In order to sort it all out, we're going to have to turn to something like the internet.

2454
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:20,700
So that information...

2455
02:06:20,700 --> 02:06:25,420
Well, assuming that we were being contacted by aliens and that the government was talking to them and everything,

2456
02:06:25,540 --> 02:06:29,980
why would they continue to pick these random people out of...off of streets and in the middle of nowhere?

2457
02:06:29,980 --> 02:06:37,320
I think it's because aliens realize that a centralized form of government just does not work when they're trying to get a change in civilization.

2458
02:06:37,320 --> 02:06:39,460
So aliens are really netizens when it comes down.

2459
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:39,840
Exactly.

2460
02:06:39,980 --> 02:06:42,460
Let's talk about some websites for people who are interested in this stuff.

2461
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:43,920
Whether it's real or not, who knows.

2462
02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:46,140
But where would you suggest that people go on the web?

2463
02:06:46,220 --> 02:06:49,580
What sites are worthwhile pursuing if you're interested in extraterrestrials and all that stuff?

2464
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:58,400
Well, I know that there's a couple of sites concerning well-known abduction phenomenon, like Whitley Stryber's site, Stryber.com.

2465
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:10,720
He talks about his book that he wrote about his abduction experience and how in the second book he talks about the government cover-up of it and a thing called Majestic 12,

2466
02:07:11,140 --> 02:07:18,840
which is a council of supposedly U.S. government officials, 12 of them, that have contacted the aliens or making deals with them.

2467
02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:20,620
Well-known but not well-proven.

2468
02:07:20,780 --> 02:07:21,840
Well-known but not well-proven.

2469
02:07:21,940 --> 02:07:23,760
Your man there, look at that look.

2470
02:07:24,420 --> 02:07:26,680
He knows it's a load of old claptrap.

2471
02:07:26,680 --> 02:07:29,740
Look at that.

2472
02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:40,380
The dreadlock, dreadlock skeptic.

2473
02:07:41,820 --> 02:07:43,440
Well-known but not well-proven.

2474
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:45,180
Well-known but not well-proven, yes.

2475
02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:46,140
I mean, the fact that-

2476
02:07:46,140 --> 02:07:50,300
Leather-clad, leather-clad Larry over here.

2477
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:52,400
With the ear-

2478
02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:54,440
Why do they all have fucking earrings as well?

2479
02:07:54,640 --> 02:07:58,700
Because on the net, I mean, one of the problems is, I mean, who knows what's here, you write anything you want, right?

2480
02:07:58,860 --> 02:07:59,420
That's right.

2481
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:00,320
There's no-

2482
02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:02,780
Look at this in the background.

2483
02:08:02,780 --> 02:08:21,060
Quib, thank you very much.

2484
02:08:21,060 --> 02:08:25,420
And how's Galv, thank you very much.

2485
02:08:25,420 --> 02:08:31,760
Paul Schindler.

2486
02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:33,620
The dispatch is undercover investigation.

2487
02:08:33,620 --> 02:08:35,060
98.814.

2488
02:08:37,060 --> 02:08:43,060
The dispatch is undercover.

2489
02:08:43,060 --> 02:08:51,480
I think you characterize it as like the world's greatest propaganda machine.

2490
02:08:51,640 --> 02:08:52,140
Exactly.

2491
02:08:52,140 --> 02:08:55,300
It's basically anybody can put anything up there.

2492
02:08:55,300 --> 02:09:05,200
And if you've got something that's reputable or so-called reputable, like Whitley Stryber, then you can go ahead and put something up.

2493
02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:08,360
And people will believe it a lot more than, say, Joe Schmoe from Kokomo.

2494
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:09,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2495
02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:10,020
All right, what other sites?

2496
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:10,480
You mentioned that.

2497
02:09:10,860 --> 02:09:12,740
Joe Schmoe from Kokomo.

2498
02:09:13,100 --> 02:09:21,760
There's another site about the Men in Black, which is an alien hive intelligence that is supposedly-

2499
02:09:21,760 --> 02:09:23,340
Cattle mutilation.

2500
02:09:23,680 --> 02:09:28,420
Welcome to the Cattle Mutilation Conspiracies and UFOs page.

2501
02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:33,440
...covering up the alien abductions and alien sightings.

2502
02:09:33,440 --> 02:09:38,980
And they go to people who have seen UFOs and taken pictures of them and threaten them into silence.

2503
02:09:38,980 --> 02:09:41,600
Sounds like a good plot for a CD-ROM adventure game.

2504
02:09:41,600 --> 02:09:42,460
It is, actually.

2505
02:09:42,620 --> 02:09:43,760
They're very sinister.

2506
02:09:43,980 --> 02:09:46,000
They dress all in black and they drive black cars.

2507
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:46,560
Hey, look at us.

2508
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:53,440
Yeah, and they supposedly are controlled by an alien hive intelligence that is just like on the other side of the moon.

2509
02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:54,000
All right.

2510
02:09:54,500 --> 02:09:55,200
What's interesting?

2511
02:09:55,380 --> 02:09:59,840
Where should somebody who really doesn't know anything about this, Josh, want to find out a little bit about the UFOs, the alien phenomena?

2512
02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:05,700
Well, a good place to start for looking for any type of information is a big web browser like Yahoo, for instance.

2513
02:10:05,820 --> 02:10:07,900
Yahoo actually has several categories.

2514
02:10:08,120 --> 02:10:16,960
And under entertainment, they have a whole area of paranormal activities under which there's everything from mysticism and the occult to UFO sightings and abductions.

2515
02:10:18,300 --> 02:10:23,600
The links coming off of there should also take you to other interesting sites all over the net.

2516
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:25,280
Yeah, the UFO link is pretty good.

2517
02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:29,820
I mean, you know, the Area 51 stuff and the Roswell stuff and all the usual things there.

2518
02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:32,040
Let me go back to the UFO.

2519
02:10:32,700 --> 02:10:34,140
Fifty shades of Shiffy.

2520
02:10:34,260 --> 02:10:35,020
Thank you very much.

2521
02:10:35,140 --> 02:10:36,580
...business or the abducting business.

2522
02:10:36,900 --> 02:10:41,300
I mean, we were talking before about, you were saying, sometimes there's just real science underneath these things.

2523
02:10:41,380 --> 02:10:47,000
There are natural phenomena that are interpreted as mystery stuff, but it's just real science.

2524
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:51,720
Well, sure. There's a phenomenon where the tectonic plates of the Earth move against each other.

2525
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:52,220
Oh, my God.

2526
02:10:52,220 --> 02:10:56,100
In doing so, they release a lot of energy by breaking crystals and rocks.

2527
02:10:56,100 --> 02:11:05,160
And this energy actually dissipates into the atmosphere in a big flash, which is actually what a lot of abductees describe as the beginning of their abduction experience.

2528
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:12,220
The discharge of electricity also creates a magnetic field, which is known to affect the brain in very specific ways.

2529
02:11:12,220 --> 02:11:24,200
When they've recreated this field in laboratory tests, they've actually been able to almost recreate the abduction experience, the feeling of not being able to move, of the idea that there's somebody right there, you know, and if you just turn your head, you'll be able to see them.

2530
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:32,140
All of these have been recreated in laboratory environments and match almost, you know, exactly the abduction experiences.

2531
02:11:32,140 --> 02:11:33,320
Yeah, that's really interesting.

2532
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:41,140
Have you been abducted by aliens? Have any of your relatives been abducted by aliens? Have any of your pets been abducted by aliens?

2533
02:11:41,140 --> 02:11:48,360
Well, it's me. I can do that.

2534
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:57,500
Oh, fuck.

2535
02:11:57,500 --> 02:12:27,480
Thank you.

2536
02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:57,460
Thank you.

2537
02:12:57,460 --> 02:13:02,360
We wanted to create a site that would serve both the astronomers in the department and the public.

2538
02:13:03,180 --> 02:13:12,040
So we created links to pages like the American Astronomical Society page, which has abstracts and data.

2539
02:13:12,420 --> 02:13:13,640
So the more technical stuff.

2540
02:13:13,780 --> 02:13:14,060
Right.

2541
02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:18,880
And then we have links to various faculty homepages where they can put their own papers and so on.

2542
02:13:19,120 --> 02:13:25,560
And then for the public, we have links to the NASA homepage, which is a really great page.

2543
02:13:25,560 --> 02:13:26,540
What kind of things are at NASA?

2544
02:13:27,720 --> 02:13:33,220
We can find pictures, images of galaxies, the planets.

2545
02:13:34,480 --> 02:13:35,540
Pictures are really great.

2546
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:36,700
We have this faculty.

2547
02:13:38,700 --> 02:13:40,100
We'll pick it up with that.

2548
02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:41,040
I'm fucking wrecked.

2549
02:13:41,160 --> 02:13:42,140
It's amazing stuff.

2550
02:13:42,660 --> 02:13:44,200
It's nice to leave it on a high.

2551
02:13:45,020 --> 02:13:47,240
We're picking it up with UFOs the next day.

2552
02:13:47,380 --> 02:13:49,760
I don't know when we're going to go back to the Net Cafe again.

2553
02:13:50,220 --> 02:13:54,300
I wish I'd have got on earlier, to be honest.

2554
02:13:55,060 --> 02:13:58,360
If I could have got on earlier, then we would have been at this for three or four hours.

2555
02:13:58,460 --> 02:14:02,320
But I mean, unfortunately, it's going to have to be a two hour and 15 minute stream because it's one.

2556
02:14:02,800 --> 02:14:04,400
I need to go to bed.

2557
02:14:05,340 --> 02:14:06,340
But we're here.

2558
02:14:06,580 --> 02:14:08,180
And we've got herself as well.

2559
02:14:08,520 --> 02:14:09,400
Withers is Withers.

2560
02:14:10,680 --> 02:14:11,960
Thank you very much there.

2561
02:14:12,460 --> 02:14:16,860
Some of you have hair and 50 shades of Shafé and House Gallup and Quibb.

2562
02:14:16,860 --> 02:14:19,060
And Shafé probed me and Skeptic Shafé.

2563
02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:23,160
And pardon me, chipping balls.

2564
02:14:23,160 --> 02:14:29,560
Please visit Joe Kenny from Feather's YouTube channel Pure Zero Irishness.

2565
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:31,160
I'll check it out the next time.

2566
02:14:31,260 --> 02:14:33,120
Thanks for sending me loads of links to everything.

2567
02:14:33,260 --> 02:14:35,020
I'll check that out in the meantime.

2568
02:14:36,340 --> 02:14:38,520
And then when I get back on, I can get back on.

2569
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:41,360
We'll talk to you later on anyway.

2570
02:14:43,640 --> 02:14:44,920
And thanks for watching.

2571
02:14:44,920 --> 02:14:47,160
Twisted.

2572
02:14:47,160 --> 02:14:47,280
Twisted.

2573
02:14:47,540 --> 02:14:48,020
Twisted.

2574
02:14:48,440 --> 02:14:48,900
Twisted.

2575
02:14:49,360 --> 02:14:49,820
Twisted.

2576
02:14:50,240 --> 02:14:50,720
Twisted.

2577
02:14:52,380 --> 02:14:52,940
Twisted.

2578
02:14:57,420 --> 02:14:59,140
Dispatches unwraps the story behind.

2579
02:14:59,240 --> 02:15:01,060
People getting undressed, you know, going to the bathroom.

2580
02:15:01,300 --> 02:15:01,660
Twisted.

2581
02:15:01,820 --> 02:15:02,960
Dispatches investigates.

2582
02:15:03,180 --> 02:15:04,620
Monday at 8 on 4.

2583
02:15:07,420 --> 02:15:08,380
Paul Schindler.

2584
02:15:08,460 --> 02:15:10,240
A Dispatches undercover investigation.

2585
02:15:10,420 --> 02:15:11,740
Monday at 8 on 4.

2586
02:15:11,740 --> 02:15:12,480
Paul Schindler.

2587
02:15:12,740 --> 02:15:14,000
Snoopering your turn.

2588
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:15,600
Where's the cue ball going?

2589
02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:17,220
Where's the cue ball going?

2590
02:15:25,640 --> 02:15:28,240
Is Chip your real name, by the way, or is that a persona for the website?

2591
02:15:28,320 --> 02:15:29,440
No, now it's my real name.

2592
02:15:29,700 --> 02:15:29,840
Now?

2593
02:15:30,020 --> 02:15:33,540
It was originally a nickname that got added to my name legally.

2594
02:15:33,660 --> 02:15:33,900
All right.

2595
02:15:34,040 --> 02:15:37,480
A lot of the sites have a sort of sexual connotation of take your clothes off, Chip.

2596
02:15:37,660 --> 02:15:37,880
Sure.

2597
02:15:38,420 --> 02:15:39,180
Housewife, Cam.

2598
02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:41,680
Is there a kind of sexual connotation to it?

2599
02:15:41,700 --> 02:15:42,880
I mean, you're a very attractive woman.

2600
02:15:42,980 --> 02:15:45,540
A good-looking lady who walks around sometimes with not too much clothes on.

2601
02:15:45,660 --> 02:15:51,000
She shots you there sort of topless at the keyboard or hanging around in, you know, small clothing.

2602
02:15:51,560 --> 02:15:55,100
Additional funding is provided by the Software Publishers Association.

2603
02:15:55,620 --> 02:15:58,440
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2604
02:15:58,440 --> 02:16:02,700
Welcome to Paul Schindler.

2605
02:16:03,060 --> 02:16:04,920
Today, I'm Paul Schindler.

2606
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:05,920
Today, I'm Paul Schindler.

2607
02:16:05,920 --> 02:16:35,900
Thank you.
